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Double curved Reinforcemnt ring Challenge!

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hardsniffer
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Double curved Reinforcemnt ring Challenge!

Hello,

I need to mode a reinforcement ring for a pressure vessel. The ring needs to have a round hole in the middle for the pipe insert. The width of the ring needs to be constant. In the drawing it is the orange part. How can I model this ring?
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IgorMir
in reply to: hardsniffer

I was under impression - that particular design had been sorted out years ago,
Apparently - not. Or the OP just didn't look up the archives.
Cheers,

Igor.

 

Web: www.meqc.com.au
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SBix26
in reply to: jchaisson2H9RZ

The hole in a repad, theoretically the intersection of two perpendicular cylinders, is not an ellipse.  An ellipse will get you close enough for any reasonable manufacturing process, but this topic has concentrated on theoretically perfect, not just close enough.

 

An ellipse is the geometric intersection of a plane and a cylinder.  If the plane is perpendicular to the cylinder, the result is a circle, which is a special case of an ellipse.  I created a geometrically (nearly) perfect repad, created a flat pattern and a drawing of it.  Below is a Flat Pattern view with measurements at various angles of the section width, and an ellipse sketched at the center in red.  As you can see, it does not match the center opening exactly.  This is reasonable, since a circle through a cylinder, flattened, is not geometrically an ellipse.

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I've attached my (nearly) perfect repad model (Inventor 2025 format), but I note that this is more work than it is worth, given manufacturing tolerances.  Does the ASME code specify how consistent the repad ring width must be?  Everything in fabrication has a tolerance, just as everything in modeling does.  Typically, we would like for modeling tolerances to be orders of magnitude tighter than manufacturing tolerances, as they routinely are.

 

For those on previous versions, this is the model process I used:

  • Trim a circle through a cylindrical surface
  • Thicken the resulting surface to a solid (sheet metal) body
  • Unfold the part
  • Offset the hole profile by the required ring width
  • Trim off the outer parts (Extrude/Intersection) except for a small remnant to allow refolding
  • Refold the part
  • Delete Face w/Heal the remnant noted above

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But still-- how close do codes require us to be to perfectly uniform width?


Sam B

Inventor Pro 2025.0.1 | Windows 11 Home 23H2
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jchaisson2H9RZ
in reply to: SBix26

what you have is more precise than required. yes, this is way more work than it should be. 

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SBix26
in reply to: jchaisson2H9RZ

This version is even more perfect (consistent width to 7 decimal places) and simpler to produce.  I guess if you're doing this every day, you would want a dedicated tool to do the job, but for occasional use this is pretty reasonable in my estimation.  Inventor 2025 format.

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With two-way symmetry I decided it is easier to model a quarter of it and mirror twice; also makes Unfold/Refold simpler.


Sam B

Inventor Pro 2025.0.1 | Windows 11 Home 23H2
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