Fusion Tool Library - Presets

[Lonnie.Cady]

I see in the Fusion tool library there is an option for presets.  How are you to access what preset you want to use when selecting the tool?

[Rob.Lockwood]

making these presets exist on a per-tool basis is a mistake..

[Laurens-3DTechDraw]

Maybe @al.whatmough can chime in and explain all of it.

[Lonnie.Cady]

yes, it seems strange to see these presets when have the ability to select material from a drop down.  But now the material filters have been removed.  Maybe they are coming back.

[Rob.Lockwood]

Doesn't seem strange, presumably the work flow will be to include a feed/speed preset for each tool for each material. It's better than having a specific tool for each preset for each material, but still falls woefully short of what many have hoped for. I'd still much rather be able to generate a preset that has nothing to do with a tool, and then feed it parameters from the selected tool.. But doesn't look like i'm going to get my way..

[Lonnie.Cady]

I did not mean the work flow was strange, but the fact they removed the ability to filter by material then added the ability to assign a material to a tool.

The only filters now are for  operation, type and dimensions.  I just don't currently see how to select one of the presets or filter by material.  I am sure I am just seeing an incomplete system but was curious about the direction it was headed.

I don't think it is a bad implementation.  I understand being able to assign multiple feeds and speeds to a tool vs having duplicate tools with different feeds and speeds. 

[Rob.Lockwood]

Ah, my guess is that the assignment of a tool to a material conflicts with the preset concept; using the presets, a single tool can now be applicable to multiple materials, so filtering by material doesn't make sense until a tool can be marked as usable with multiple materials.. and you're just seeing an intermediate step in the process while they test out implementing presets themselves.

[Laurens-3DTechDraw]

Apart from everything, THERE IS PROGRESS!!

(Tool Library 2.0 speaking)

[Greg_Haisley]

Yes at a snail's pace there is a bit of progress.

I believe they want a perfect solution and will over analyze it to death to make sure it is perfect. This is a 180 degree reversal from the turning module. We all know what happened there.

[al.whatmough]

this is BETA view of how things could work.  I will let mark chime in an provide more color.

@Rob.Lockwood sometimes I think you must have tapped out phones - you always seem to have a solid intuition on what is going on.

[Rob.Lockwood]

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@al.whatmough wrote:

this is BETA view of how things could work.  I will let mark chime in an provide more color.

@Rob.Lockwood sometimes I think you must have tapped our phones - you always seem to have a solid intuition on what is going on.

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[scottmoyse]

  And slap bang in between a couple of badasses too. @Rob.Lockwood

[Lonnie.Cady]

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@Rob.Lockwood wrote:

Ah, my guess is that the assignment of a tool to a material conflicts with the preset concept; using the presets, a single tool can now be applicable to multiple materials, so filtering by material doesn't make sense until a tool can be marked as usable with multiple materials.. and you're just seeing an intermediate step in the process while they test out implementing presets themselves.

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A tool can be marked for use with multiple materials.  That is what the presets are doing.  You can pick a different materials and set the feeds and speed in a single tool.  Problem is there is no way to select what preset you want to use when selecting the tool.

So first we had a material filter with no way to assign a material to a tool, then a ton of sample libraries that leads us to believe the best method is to create several identical tools in different folders according to material.  Now we can assign multiple materials and there for feeds and speeds to a single tool but can't select them or filter them.

It seems almost a waste of time to try to set up an serious tool library at this point.