Why can't I move this sketch?

[jskinner58]

As the screencast shows, I can move the S but not the N.  Can't figure out why...  Trying to adjust the spacing between letters.  It doesn't generate an error and appears to do something but I am not sure what.

[jeff_strater]

Hi @jskinner58,

I can't see anything obvious from the screencast that would prevent the "n" from being moved.  It should be fine.  Can you post/share the design so we can take a look at it?

thanks,

[TrippyLighting]

I have commented on this alsready in another thread.

With many letters in the same sketch this becomes quite involved.

I'd try to use one sketch per letter and then use a master, or skeleton sketch to assemble these individual letters. You'd define the distance and kerning between these letters in that master sketch.

This would be much more responsive and interacive in feedback.

[jskinner58]

Here is a file.  I stripped everything out except for two letters.  One I can move as expected but not the other one.

I also noticed another issue.  When I went to save to the computer it had a previous location that doesn't exist anymore.  I moved that folder into another folder but I didn't think of it.  The program didn't give any indication of any error saving the file.  I went back and did it again thinking I had just forgotten to hit the last "save" button or something.  Then I remembered that I moved folders so selected the new folder location and it worked.  I should have gotten some sort of notification the save didn't work.

[TrippyLighting]

I tried to demonstrate what I described earlier but I think there is a bug here. @jeff_strater here's a Screencast

[jskinner58]

Interesting.  I haven't run into the issue that the offset isn't closed and have done quite a few.  I am starting a new thread on the file saving issue as it is not really related to this thread.  I tried to edit it out but can't...

[jskinner58]

Any update on this issue?  I supplied the requested file.  Is anyone able to confirm this is a bug? Work arounds?

[jeff_strater · Accepted solution]

Yes, I can reproduce this behavior, and I will log the bug.

The problem seems to be that there are three offsets on the "n".  This is somehow interfering with the move, probably some solver issue.  The "s" does not have these constraints:

if I delete these constraints, the geometry moves OK, so if you are looking for a workaround, remove those constraints.

Here is a screencast of me working with this model:

Jeff

[jskinner58]

Thanks! 

I did not add the constraints.  They were automatically added.  It may be because I did the offsets in segments in that area rather than as the whole loop.  Think I did the outer first and then offset for the inner.

The selecting of all the segments of the loop to delete is tedious as you did and are no doubt aware.  There is a suggestion to add ability to select the whole loop which would be a welcome addition to the functionality.

[jskinner58]

I notice that when the offset constraint is deleted a concentric constrain symbol appears.  Is it normal that the concentric symbol appears next to the center point?  (Rather than as a different center point symbol)

[jeff_strater]

Yeah, it's normal.  The idea is that if you remove the offset constraint, Fusion attempts to try to preserve the association to some degree.  So, for lines, you will get a parallel constraint between the original and the offset, and for arcs, you'll get a concentric between the two.  Whether this is a good idea or not is debatable, I guess.  But, yes, it's intentional.

Jeff