Suppress feature in timeline causes issues

[Anonymous]

By suppressing an extrusion in the timeline sevearl other features also get suppressed. I am having trouble with the logics behind this and cannot really see if this is intended behavior or if I am missing something?

Screen cast showing issue where a few features are suppressed and causes many other features to disapper and show up in the timeline as supressed. F3d file of model in question attached.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

Mark

[Anonymous]

Hello I was also suprised by this new logic,
but apparently you can avoid this by using "remove" fuction insted of delete/supress. Remove is something new that apears when you do right clic.
You can also disable the design historic (something I generally do because it slow down my machine) and then use delete as before.

Hope it helps,
Regards

[Anonymous]

Hi edug,
I cannot find this remove functionality you mention? The reason I want to supress is because I would like to turn on/off the extrusion much like turning on/off bodies, component and sketches with the light bulb in the browser.

[Anonymous]

Not sure I understand but,
I think you might have to use design history and edit the concerned extrusion to a null value or approx when you want it to be disabled. And set the value back when you want it again.
But maybe you'll find a best way in the doc.

(I send you a screenshot from where you can find the remove function but i don't think it's appropriate for what you wan't to do)

[Anonymous]

I am using the design history suppress feature. The remove you are talking about does not apply to the timeline only the browser tree.
But I suppose your suggestion of editing the extrusion to a zero value may work. Thanks.

Mark

[brucehuang]

Hi Mark, it seems that the last two "Reinforcement" components' positions are changed, but they are not captured by snapshot. So when you opened the file, you can see the "Snapshot" & "Revert" buttons are available on the end of toolbar. See below shot,

These uncaptured position change will be reverted automatically if any compute is triggered. The suppression for the extrude will trigger a minimum compute, so these two movement for the two components will be reverted along with the compute. You can click "Snapshot" command to capture the movement. Then extrude suppress will look exactly what you want. 

Bruce (Fusion Development Team)

[brucehuang]

Hi Mark,

Attached a video to show you more details about the non-captured position change for the components. 

Bruce (Fusion Development Team)

[Anonymous]

Hi Bruce,

Thanks for your reply and screen cast. I see that the capture does solve some of the issue but not all. See my screen cast here in response to show you more. Other extrusions are lost when the suppress is applied to the timeline. No need to delve deeper into this to solve my current issue. I have found a workaround where I don't need this at all.

[brucehuang · Accepted solution]

Hi Mark, Thanks for posting more details. From my analysis, it's as designed that "Extrude6" is suppressed when suppressing "Extrude1". Currently, in Fusion 360, the features have any dependencies with the suppressed one will be suppressed either. 

Note that "Extrude1" is an extrude-cut operation. It generates some new bodies (body2 & body3 in components shell2 ~ shell5). So these new bodies depends on "Extrude1". "Extrude6" is also an extrude-cut operation. It will cut these new bodies generated by "Extrude1". So "Extrude6" depends on "Extrude1" implicitly. 

Hope this helps you understand the backend logic of suppress in Fusion. Any suggestion is welcomed:)

Bruce (Fusion Development Team)

[Anonymous]

Hi Bruce,

I have accepted your answer as solution. It helps to have some insight to the nuts and bolts behind the scenes to figure out the logics behind this. Very good thanks.

Mark