Sketch Palette Always Visible

[Anonymous]

Since the January update the Sketch palette is always visible while in 2D sketch and if I choose CLOSE at the bottom of the palette window the sketch closes.  The Constraints palette is also now on this sketch palette. Is there a setting that can return this behavior off?

[herzinj]

Hi quaverf,

I was wondering about this functionality as well, but have not found a way to close the palette without exiting the sketch yet.  Hopefully someone will have a better solution, but I currently am using a simple work around where I dock the palette next to the model tree and then minimize it.

This isn't perfect, but it does get the pallette out of the way of my sketches and easily accessible when needed!  

James

[innovatenate]

You can dock the palette on the right side of the workspace and then condense the dialog box with the "double arrow" icon.

I hope that helps.

Thanks,

[Anonymous]

Not a work around but sometimes when I subsequently "fly out" the palette to access the constraints tools I can no longer see the entire palette; left hand side is hiden (descriptions and a portion of the symbols).  Docking eats up valuable workspace.  My preference is to not see palettes that I am not using and preserve workspace.  I'll pass along a screen shot next time the palette fails to fly out properly.

[Anonymous]

Hi The team should put the palette options in "Preference" like "Auto look at Sketch".  I am sure a lot of users would love to turn that off. Now I click the "-" sign on the left to make it small. It will default into a small banner on top. But the problem is all the other dialog boxes or palettes also became small. A selection at the "Preference" is the best.

Thanks for listening.

[TrippyLighting]

Totally agree. Keeping the winow open is definitely preferred as having to invoke it time and time again for every new constrint operation is really timeconsuming and unproductive.

In the olden days on Unix  using the X-Window system you could pin windows to the desktop so they would not dissapear when opening another menu. That is still a brilliant concept that would be useful in in other areas of Fusion as well.

[kb9ydn]

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@Anonymous wrote:

Docking eats up valuable workspace.  My preference is to not see palettes that I am not using and preserve workspace.  I'll pass along a screen shot next time the palette fails to fly out properly.

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Having the constraints always visible on a toolbar/pallette is much better than having to dig them out of a menu; that's for sure.  But the current method of showing all of the constraint types, all the time, is not space efficient.  What would be better is to only show the constraint types that are valid for the combination of entities you have currently selected.  For example, with nothing selected you see no available constraints in the pallette.  If a line is selected, you get the option of "fix" or "horizontal/vertical".  If two lines are selected, you get "fix", "perpendicular", "parallel", "equal", and "colinear".  Of course the window would need to resize based on it's contents, but this way you only take up as much screen space as is needed.

Currently the invalid options are greyed out, which is a step in the right direction, so it should be relatively simple to hide them completely and dynamically resize the window.

C|

[Anonymous]

James, there is a bug with the left or right double arrows.  Those only show up after a fresh start of Fusion 360 and you just entered the sketching mode. once the plane selected this sketch palette will come up with the double arrows. once you did something on the grid the double arrows disappered. I believe these strange arrows will not show up after that. Maybe until a fresh restart of the program. In other words I had found that these double arrows only showed up once and disappeared. Please test that and you will find out. It happened to all my Apples.

[Anonymous]

Hi Nathan, I think this Sketch Palette is very good. But like i reported a few minutes ago, the double arrows disappeared after some movement in sketches and never come back. Would it be better to make that as a Preference Option, and retain the Constraint selection under Sketch? Some will by no means love to have the Sketch Palette on the desktop, but some who are used to putting "constraints " on the tool bar might like that better. It is just a suggestion but personally I am more used to the Constraint menu under Sketch. Just like I had unselected "Auto Look at Sketches" at preference.

Thanks for listening.

[innovatenate]

Kingson,

Thanks for posting! The collapse (double arrow) icon, only shows up when the palette is docked to the side of the window. Check out the below video:

If the palette is not docked and is free floating, you can use the +/- icon to collapse the palette. See below video for clarification:

I hope this helps clarify the palette behavior. Do the videos help?

Thanks,

[Anonymous]

Hi Nathan, Thanks for your reply, but did you try moving the Sketch Palette when the Fusion windows is not at full size? 

Under these two conditions the arrows will not come out.

For Apples only

1) My Dock is hiddened on the right of the screen

2) I do not use full size because I cannot. My Dock is on the right side.

Your videos are made at full size Fusion windows.

I show you a screen shot here. Yes at full size Fusion windows the Palette will bounce back then the arrows will show up. But not at my two conditions.

All your other mentioned functions I already knew. 

I think the Palette should be made as a preference selection, and the Constraints command should be placed back to Sketch. For smaller screen like my 11 Inch I7 AIR, it is convering a lot of space. It is not efficient to close it or bounce it. The (-) is even worse. Once i used that to collapse that to a banner, all the other boxes or dialog boxes that came out will be collapsed also. You should try that yourself. This screen shot is taken after I tried to move the palette to the right side of the screen. At not full size windows. It did not bounce back with the arrows. These arrows only come back at full screen Fusion windows maybe with the dock at the bottom. This Sketch Palette slows down my daily workflow and I believe more advaned users who are using them for commercial designing everyday would prefer to have them not selected. 

Please have a little patience and try the palette under my two conditions. Also try the (-) signs. Then try to activate other dialog boxes after that (Extrude, press pull commands etc.)

Just like Auto Look At Sketch, for more advanced users we turned that off for more controls.

Thanks for listening and trying. It is 5:30am in our morning now. I work hard everyday at designing etc. 

[Anonymous]

Nathan, I have a work around on this Palette thing. In order to use partial Fusion 360 screen with the palette, everytime I opened Fusion360 I will drag the desktop to the left, then i touch sketch and select planes. The Palette will come out. I click on the left arrows, it will compress to the side. I can drag the desktop back to the middle or just leave it there. That way even if I stopped Sketch and opened sketch again the Palette will remain compressed. 

Photoshop used to do that but they also have the same commands on the menu bar. I can always close the Palette. Now Photoshop has a different arrangement. They now have different modes. The palettes always stay at the side and can be compressed. But those selections are always at the menu bar. 

[Anonymous]

Nathan,

The Palette will stay in compressed form even after Fusion is closed and reopened again. So that one has to be done just once. it is on the left side now. But if I opened it to do some constraint operations I will have to move the desktop to the left and compress it again. A Preference selection could be a good way to handle this. I hope this can be done.

Thanks

[innovatenate]

Kingson,

Thank you for the feedback. I'm glad that you were able to find a solution to get the sketch palette docked. It sounds like a bit more work than it should be at the moment. I have raised your concerns with the development staff for future consideration.

Thanks,

[Anonymous]

Hi Nathan,

Thanks for your understand!

[AbdnAllHope]

I made some comments on this in another thread.  Rather than cross post.  Here is a link.

http://forums.autodesk.com/t5/sketching-sculpting-modeling-and/new-sketch-constraint-panel-is-pretty...

phil

[cbenner]

Ok,... here's one for you.  What happens if you somehow ACCIDENTALLY find a way to shut off the sketch palette.... how do I get it BACK now?!

Found it!  Hiding on my second monitor for some unknown reason!