Sheet metal rule is not changing anything in the model. In either in 3d or flat pattern modes.

Sheet metal rule is not changing anything in the model. In either in 3d or flat pattern modes.

clarenceVH8JF
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Sheet metal rule is not changing anything in the model. In either in 3d or flat pattern modes.

clarenceVH8JF
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Like the title says, I am getting no response from Fusion to a change in the sheet metal rule. 

 

I have two sheet metal models in this design I'm working on. One of them works perfectly fine and the other had no response to a rule change.

I even started a whole new design file just for the model that doesn't work (attached). 

 

Anyone with knowledge about where or what I screwed up with this would be greatly appreciated. 

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jhackney1972
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You did not attach your model with the two sheet metal bodies so I cannot show you how to have different materials for each.  The key is to have each sheet metal body under a separate sheet metal component.  Each component can then have a different sheet metal material.  Take a look at the Screencast.  If you have sheet metal bodies and you want to convert them to sheet metal components, let me know, I can help you with that also.

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clarenceVH8JF
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I realize that, but my problem is the model I posted doesn't change when I change the sheet metal rule. For example if I open up the file I posted and change the sheet metal rule miter/rip/seam gap to be .01" and the 2 bend relief shape to be round with a relief size of Thickness * 3, nothing happens to the 3d model or the flat sheet. 

 

I don't know why this is happening to this design specifically while other designs of similar shape and dimensions work fine. There has to be something simple I am missing here and I'm just can't find it.

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jhackney1972
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You are not seeing changes in your model simply because the changes you are making are NOT IN YOUR model.  In the Screencast I modified a couple of your flanges to give you a miter edge to show one of your material edits and then change another for a simple bend condition.  The Sheet Metal Rules are working, you just need to have the features in your model to apply them to.

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clarenceVH8JF
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So I tried the same things you have done and they work the same as you show....

But the two 2 bend corners don't do anything yet.

 

Corner does not match settings.

The corner does not match the settings.The corner does not match the settings.

 

Flat pattern doesn't change either.

Flat pattern always looks like this.Flat pattern always looks like this.

 

These setting don't change it either.

Even if I change the settingsEven if I change the settings

 

 

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clarenceVH8JF
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This is what I need and get on the other design with the same settings. 

 

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akara1LDV9E
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I am having this same problem, cant find any solution

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TheCADWhisperer
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@akara1LDV9E 

Can you File>Export your *.f3d file to your local drive and then Attach it here to a Reply?

(After reading this thread - I’m surprised you didn’t think of that.)

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HughesTooling
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@TheCADWhisperer There is a file attached to the first post of are you asking for the version that works as well?

 

@clarenceVH8JF  I think the problem is you are not creating a 2 corner bend because you're using 2 flanges for those corners.

HughesTooling_0-1687432643480.png

If you create all 3 flanges in one flange feature it will work how you expect. See attached file.

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Mark

 

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TheCADWhisperer
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@HughesTooling wrote:

@TheCADWhisperer There is a file attached to the first post of are you asking for the version that works as well?


@HughesTooling 

This is an old discussion thread.

I'm only interested in the recent issue.

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akara1LDV9E
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Does fusion not support adjusting the miter or relief settings when using separate flanges? Its not always possible to use the same operation for all flanges that intersect, so this is still an unsolved issue
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HughesTooling
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@akara1LDV9E wrote:
Does fusion not support adjusting the miter or relief settings when using separate flanges? 

 

I don't know, never needed to create the flanges separately. @TheCADWhisperer might have more insight into this.

 

@akara1LDV9E would be a good idea to share an example file, even a simple sample if you can't share the actual design.

 

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TheCADWhisperer
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@akara1LDV9E wrote:
…so this is still an unsolved issue

No.

This is an undefined issue.

@akara1LDV9E 

You have not Attached your file here.

I will wager that I can solve the issue.

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akara1LDV9E
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Thanks for your reply.

Here is an example

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TheCADWhisperer
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@akara1LDV9E 

I am having trouble deciphering your true Design Intent.

I am having trouble understanding how this relates to the original problem description.

Can you post image of similar corner from real world existing component that you are attempting to duplicate?

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akara1LDV9E
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the problem is the giant square chunk taken out of the corner when its set to Arc Weld

2 bend intersection is set to arc weld but it doesnt apply to intersecting flange 

It's an L bracket with a curved edge, it gets arc welded after bending, the corner shoujld be arc weld miter.
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TheCADWhisperer
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Bump.

Just moving this to the top so that I don't forget it.

I got tied up in other work.

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TheCADWhisperer
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@akara1LDV9E 

I noticed that you did not include image from real world part as requested.

TheCADWhisperer_0-1687694636375.png

TheCADWhisperer_0-1687694751611.png

 

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akara1LDV9E
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Thanks, this is a bit clunky but it works, I would not have thought to use the fillet tool to make the correct face to delete in order to get the correct miter. It's a workaround in my mind but it does work, it would be nice to see Fusion apply the documents sheet metal rules to these intesections tho, as far as I can tell the rules dont have any effect, and are not working intuitively/as intended.

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