Selecting Sketch Text bug...not everything gets selected

Selecting Sketch Text bug...not everything gets selected

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Selecting Sketch Text bug...not everything gets selected

nkloski
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I brought up this bug quite a few months ago, but it is still present.....any word on when this will get resolved?  It is very easy to re-create:

 

  • Start a new Design
  • Sketch on any plane
  • Select Sketch --> Text
  • Use default 10mm text and default font, type the word "hello"
  • Explode the text into sketch curves
  • Zoom out a bit so that the text is a bit small on the screen.
  • Drag a box around the entire word
  • ....find that not everything is selected...something about the view somehow affecting smaller "hard to see" segments?

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michallach81
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Hi, selection works in F360 a bit oddly, it pick entities that are "well visible", if you zoom in it will work fine, if lines are to small it will ignore them. Luckly ther is a simple work around,

in select tab go to selection filters and check Select Through. Now it will work as it should, it will select all lines even the smallest one. Just keep in mind that you have enabled this option and if your scene get crowded, you'll be forced to hide unwanted objects that are "in view".

One more thing you need to unfix your text, it's not pronounced as it should (green dots), but indeed it's fixed after Explode Text.


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Phil.E
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I can't reproduce the issue on Win 7 with a modest  computer. It may be hardware or OS related.

 

Can you tell me about your hardware? What OS are you running, what is the video card, are you on dual monitors or anything else that might be relevant?

 

Do you find that when you zoom in rather than zooming out that window selections work better for you in this case?

 

Have you tried using the Select filter to select only Sketch Curves?





Phil Eichmiller
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Autodesk, Inc.


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nkloski
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Yep, the Select Through works as I would have thought. The problem is, though, is that everything on a single sketch plane should be selectable...there is no concept of "through"...at least in my thinking.

That is why there are multiple drag-select modalities: drag from the right to the left, one type of selection, drag from the left to the right, another. One would think that the drag-select direction of "I want to select absolutely everything my selection box covers" would actually select everything that that box covers....

Would this not qualify as a bug?

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nkloski
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Yes, zooming in works as I would have thought. If you zoom out and drag select a box around the text object, that is when the problem happens.

I have a nice computer: GTX 770 graphics, dual monitors, one being a 28in High DPI display, and the other only a 1080p monitor, i7 2600K processor, 16GB memory....it does the job 🙂

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michallach81
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I've just reedit my post, don't forget to unfix exploded text

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Phil.E
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It certainly does qualify as a bug. One thing about fixing bugs, we have to reproduce it.

 

If we can't reproduce it, as I can't right now, we need to find out what is specific about your setup in order to replicate it. We assume that you aren't the only person with this unique condition, so it would be nice to fix it for anyone who faces it. Again, without the ability to reproduce it the "fix" becomes much harder.

 

If I could reproduce it using your advice in Production, I could also try in our Development builds. This will ultimately be the path to fixing this.





Phil Eichmiller
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nkloski
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I totally understand! I can try to reproduce this myself on my home computer which is entirely different and let you know the results later this evening...thanks!

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michallach81
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give me a moment i'll make screencast


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nkloski
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Also, I brought this up in December, and a bug was filed: UP-16825

From this thread: http://forums.autodesk.com/t5/design-and-documentation/zoom-level-affects-selection/m-p/5449546/high...

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michallach81
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screencast:

http://autode.sk/1dMERF3

 

this selection issue is truth for any kinde of enities if they to small in viewport select tool (default settings) will ignore them. 


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Phil.E
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Thanks for all the posts.

 

I've added the link to this thread to the existing bug report UP-16825. I can also confirm that this is not fixed in development yet. For now you will have to continue using the Select Through filter. My apologies, the problem was that I always have Select Through active and only switch it off for special cases so I didn't see it immediately.





Phil Eichmiller
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nkloski
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Great, thanks! I think Select Through is "off" by default, so people may come across this more quickly than otherwise would happen. I brought up this bug just about 6 months ago...any word if it will get fixed?

I don't use text that often, but it is just something I have to remember to work around when I do.

(now, and even more show stoppingly, since there is no way I have found to fix it, is how get an option to "flip" text when Fusion decides that it wants to create text oriented to the "front" side of a sketch plane, but you need it to be on the "back" of the sketch plane, and all the text is reversed 🙂 )

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