Saving a project locally

Saving a project locally

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Saving a project locally

Anonymous
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How can you work completely offline? I am under an NDA which prohibits me from sharing their designs. I have to use my other workstation that is isolated from all networks. I need to know how to save my data when working offline locally and never put into the cloud or any other external network. Certainly there has to be a way to do so because I cannot be the only person that has this issue.

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Message 21 of 62

PhilProcarioJr
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@Anonymous

" I'd say the people at Autodesk with access to the cloud, probably don't have as robust of security to ensure that their own systems aren't used to bypass a private cloud save file, and if a competitor was trying to get access to a design, I'd say it'd be pretty easy to hire someone capable of obtaining unrestricted access, whether locally or remotely.  From a hacker to a mere janitor, throw a few grand their way and an Autodesk employee who leaves their desk to go to the bathroom is all of a sudden breached."

 

This is absolutely not an issue, the data on the cloud is encrypted and even Autodesk employees can not look at your files without you giving them access. I would say it is much more likely that your computer would be hacked and used to access your files and the only way to make sure data can not be stolen from your PC is to not have it connected to the internet and have your computer in a vault somewhere that no one but you could enter.... 

 

Do you really think security of your files is not a top priority for Autodesk? If client files were stolen this would create a public relations nightmare for Autodesk and Fusion would be done along with people not trusting their other products.....

 

http://www.autodesk.com/trust/security



Phil Procario Jr.
Owner, Laser & CNC Creations

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Message 22 of 62

Anonymous
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I don't really care about how good their security is (I'm not a professional contractor), but there is just something CONTROLLING about NOT having an option NOT to upload to their in-house Cloud.
Message 23 of 62

PhilProcarioJr
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@Anonymous

The part your not getting is the basis of what the product can and can't do without the cloud.

As long as you don't need cross linked files it is completely possible to work offline, but it would be a pain and a lot of functionality would not be there.

If that is your issue that's fine and I understand I actually agree to a point but your only real option is to go with something like inventor and move on.

They are "NOT" going to change this....

This subject has been beaten to death and whether any of us likes it or not "ALL" software is headed to the cloud and sooner or later none of us are going to have a choice.



Phil Procario Jr.
Owner, Laser & CNC Creations

Message 24 of 62

Anonymous
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I think a main issue is that people (and I include myself in the people) are suspicious because we do not and did not understand what’s in it for Autodesk.

Once people understand that it is purely a business decision then we warm to the idea and start trusting the system more.

 

I took a look at Fusion 360 a while back and walked away because I couldn’t figure out why a company would host my data for free and I naturally assumed that they were after my next big invention.

Once I thought about it and realised that Autodesk are using Fusion 360 to create a massive customer base, I had no problem jumping on board.

The way I see it is that Autodesk wants myself, my children and my work colleagues to be a lifelong customers and that’s fine, as long as the product meets my needs.

 

Then there’s Mark Knopfler’s take on the subject, pay special attention to the line at 4.20 (sorry Autodesk, just a little fun).  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFUSTz3p_WY

Message 25 of 62

Anonymous
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@Anonymous
You're right, can't argue there. NWO, New World Order, ha.

" your only real option is to go with something like inventor and move on.
They are "NOT" going to change this....
This subject has been beaten to death and whether any of us likes it or not "ALL" software is headed to the cloud and sooner or later none of us are going to have a choice."
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Message 26 of 62

Anonymous
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The biggest problem I have with Fusion being cloud based and were others can access your file, this is a vulnerability in regard to intellectual property why can we not be able to choose to save to either the cloud or to a local hard drive this way we can choose to protect or share our property

 

Message 27 of 62

Anonymous
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Nobody can access, see or work with your files except you are allowing them to.

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Message 28 of 62

Anonymous
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This is absolutely pathetic! When working on my school's network Fusion 360 is extremely slow and when I use chrome for a minute or 2 and click back onto Fusion my computer crashes!!! This has since led to a corrupt drive and I lost a fair amount of school work! I got the computer running again and look to find an option to use F360 offline to avoid the problems caused only by my school's slow network, and I can't!!! ABSOLUTELY PATHETIC! MUST BE FIXED ASAP!

Message 29 of 62

TrippyLighting
Consultant
Consultant

I totally agree!

 

Your schools network is clearly the problem as you've indicated several times and should be fixed ASAP.


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Message 30 of 62

jkotrosa
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OK, I appreciate the detailed explanation to justify your position, but for many of us who do proprietary work this is actually a huge show stopper.  I will continue with Solid Works until such time as F360 or another competitor can provide me the more important part - securing my intellectual property, rather than extra features.

 

And as for the cloud technology part of this, I don't buy the whole premise that in the cloud is better for the consumer.  It is simply a means to protect your software from competitors seeing the code - how ironic that you want your consumers to give up their rights to privacy so that you can covet yours.  I'm sure this will only secure Solid Works (and others) market position.

 

 

Message 31 of 62

Anonymous
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Just stumbled across this thread when trying fusion360 for the first time. i see a lot of 3d printing people using this software and thought it looked quite nice to use....... that was until strictly cloud based storage. NOPE im out. i want to handle files myself. guess ill have to go find something else. was a nice try though.

Message 32 of 62

s.david.baxter
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I sort of felt the same way in the beginning as well. It is understandable
that the "Cloud" is not for everyone however Fusion 360 is probably the
best design software I have ever seen in over 40 years of design, it would
be unfortunate to pass this up because of "file issues". The "off-line"
mode is much better now than in the beginning, you can store local for 14
days before touching base with the "mother ship" if that is the way you
want to roll. If security is your issue, well that is another problem
however, I would suspect your computer could be hacked much easier than the
Autodesk servers. If you don't trust Autodesk with the responsibility of
file management and security then another flavour of software is probably
the best choice. My guidance is try Fusion for awhile and enjoy the ease
of use and powerful functionality, this may diminish your concerns about
working in the cloud. For what it's worth.
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Message 33 of 62

Anonymous
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Sorry but it is not possible to hack a computer that is air gapped and all files stored on an external. This is the only problem I have with Fusion, they simply do not respect the customers wishes when it comes to this. I have to sign NDA's for work I do and if I invent something it can get stolen. Bottom line the cloud is dumb and one can go so far to say intentional.

Message 34 of 62

Anonymous
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It's definitely a show stopper for me. I want to control my designs i want to manage files i will not be forced to "don't worry just use the cloud it'll be ok" that mentality may work for apple users but for the rest of us it's a bit rude. 

 

Until i can use it in truly offline sense i wont be using it, which is a shame it looks to be exactly the thing i want. I'll just continue tinkering with Sketchup.

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Message 35 of 62

Anonymous
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I started this thread may of 2018. Does not look like they are going to listen to their clients anytime soon. If I operated my business that way I would have to close my doors.
Message 36 of 62

TrippyLighting
Consultant
Consultant

@Anonymous And you feel because you use different hardware and a different OS you generally are more educated ?

 

If you don't like Fusion 360 then continue to use Sketchup. I assure you, no one here has a problem with that.

 


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Message 37 of 62

johnlange1221
Explorer
Explorer

To be honest I have a problem with the cloud base-thing (an Autodesk needs of be in control of everything) I'm leaving fusion 360 for another software, that has the most important feature-thing which is the freedom of doing what ever you want with your project.

Message 38 of 62

Anonymous
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Good choice.. It will be more expensive but what belongs to you or your customers will stay in your hands. Good luck.

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Message 39 of 62

Anonymous
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I am a new user trying to figure out if F360 is the platform for me. What happens to my designs and projects if at some time in the future I decide not to renew my license? Can I get them to store locally or do I have to continue paying licensing fees if I want continued access to my work in the future?


 

Message 40 of 62

etfrench
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Simply save each of your designs as a step file or one of the other file types.

ETFrench

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