Joints and missing references

[untrustedone]

Hi,

I have this issue with joints, Attached are two files, the Doorbell is the master, and the battery is to determine mounting location. For the purpose of this definition, after importing the battery to the doorbell, i create a joint at the top of the chamfered face. I join the battery top center edge to the top center face that has the bottom chamfer. When I do that, i get all sorts of errors, using cache geometry, lost references and all stuff. Sometimes errors also manifest as a rotation of the part.

Behavior is actually better with exported files, rather than 'native.'

Any pointers as to how to fix would be appreciated.

Rob

[Phil.E · Accepted solution]

Hi,

Thanks for posting. This is due to a known issue we are working to fix. 

You created the battery by using Save As on the doorbell design. This reveals the bug. The internal ID of the battery pack is the same as the doorbell now. We are working to fix that.

The problem happens when you insert a "clone" of a design back into the design itself and start trying to use Joints. The Joint command gets confused about which component is getting selected - they both have the same "name/ID".

For the battery pack, you are better off creating a new design, making a rectangle, extruding it, and then using that in your doorbell design. You aren't saving much time by using Save As in this case.

Thanks,

[Anonymous]

@Phil.E , is this an issue as of the latest update? I'm wondering if this might be a similar root cause for some of the joint problems I'm having (multiple copies of an imported component "losing" joints when I save and reopen the parent design). What would be a "safe" way to import multiple copies of the same component? (Or is this a completely different problem?)

Thanks!

[chrisplyler]

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@Anonymous wrote:

@Phil.E , is this an issue as of the latest update? I'm wondering if this might be a similar root cause for some of the joint problems I'm having (multiple copies of an imported component "losing" joints when I save and reopen the parent design). What would be a "safe" way to import multiple copies of the same component? (Or is this a completely different problem?)

Thanks!

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Maybe just import it once, and the Copy>Paste it to achieve multiples?

[Anonymous]

@chrisplyler Thanks. I tried both ways (Import three times, vs. Import once then copy/paste twice). Doesn't seem to make much of a difference.

[untrustedone]

Sooooo, next release? 

[untrustedone]

Hi , 

Well, I was going to go on a rant about that I started out with two fresh drawings, but I realized that I do not. I created master starter files because I do use the old, old CATIA orientation. So, I decide to work in a measurement system, bring that file up, then save it to the desired file name. So, it would be nice to either push that fix for renaming out to the general public or allow for setting the orientation globally, OR both. 🙂 You can set Z-up, but then the rest of the orientation is left to user on a drawing by drawing basis.

Might there be a way to change the ID fo the offending object. There is some mention of this with the latest release.

[lukramon]

Would be great if that got fixed, still getting this issue.