How To Remove And Relocated A Section From A Single Body/Object

[Anonymous]

I need to know in detail, meaning the EXACT steps for things to click on and do, for how to remove a section/thing from a single body, and then reattach it somewhere else on the body of the object. I downloaded a tool box from thingverse (thing number 4433963) but I don't like where the designer placed the mounting tab which will place the tool box at the front of my Ender 5 Pro 3D printer. I want to remove the mounting tab as shown in the picture and move it to the lower section of the tool box thus will allow me to locate the tool box to back section of my 3D printer. 

   I have tried searching and doing COUNTLESS how-to videos to get this done whereby trying 123D Design, FreeCAD, Meshmixer, and now Fusion 360 but I can't find a DETAILED video on how to do what should be such a simple process but keeps looking like the designers of the software made it a complicated process to do what seems should be such a simple process.... since whatever I follow in their videos of them using the same software I am using, it does not do what it shows it doing in their videos

Any links to the videos that show all of and the DIRECT steps to doing the process that I need done would be appreciated... can be videos for 123D Design, Fusion 360, etc as I listed above

[davebYYPCU]

In Fusion, with the mesh body loaded.

Cancel the timeline - right click top file name and select Do not Capture Design History, last item in the menu.

Select the Mesh Body, right click, select Convert > Mesh to Brep. 

Hide the Mesh body.

Construction > Create Midplane.  Select front and back faces of the tool box.

Split Body, Select the tool box, and the cut plane is the top face of the toolbox.

Mirror select Tab body, and the midplane.

Combine - Toolbox and the new tab > Join.

Delete original tab.

Save as STL.

Might help....

[Anonymous]

Any help is worth a try... thanks 🐵 Going to try your suggestion here in the next hour and let ya know how it went

[Anonymous]

There was no option to "Do not Capture Design History, last item in the menu." There was only the option to "Capture Design History" in the menu, and so I continued thinking that it was already somehow set by default to not capture the design history.

   I then was able to "Select the Mesh Body, right click, select Convert > Mesh to Brep. " and the body changed from the purple/pinkish color to a charcoal-like color and still showed the triangular shapes/meshes, but when I looked for the option to "Hide the Mesh body." I couldn't find it anywhere

   So even though those triangle shapes/mesh is still showing, I went ahead anyways for now to your next step of "Construction > Create Midplane.  Select front and back faces of the tool box." and I attached a picture of what things look like so far and so hopefully you can tell me if things are looking right or not up to this point.

[davebYYPCU]

Ok, yes your mesh body in the bodies list is turned off.

Yes you have the 2 faces to make the mid plane highlighted, press ok.

You are on the right track.

[chrisplyler]

Dave... if you want him to mirror the tab straight down, wouldn't you want him to create the midplane between the top edges and the bottom edges?

[davebYYPCU]

As I see it, was moving top tab to the back,

(mirror does not delete original - yet, but loving the auto join)

the design was for the Assembly to be fitted to a front vertical rail, and 

he wants to mount the Assembly on a rear vertical rail.

There are bottom fittings that didn’t need interfering with.

It worked a treat here.

Might help...

[chrisplyler]

Cool.

I would like to make a polite point to the OP. That tool holder or whatever it is...it's such a simple shape, you could model it in Fusion they way you want it probably faster than you can fix that triangulated mesh crap. And you've got Fusion anyway...so why NOT learn how to model with it?

[davebYYPCU]

The fact that this converted to flat faces, you would normally be correct, and I would have agreed with you, but this time was quicker to convert and git it done.

[Anonymous]

Well, if I don't even know how to relocate a little tab on a tool box, then I obviously wouldn't know how to design the whole tool box. As my initial post said, I can tear apart vehicles and rebuild them. I can design and build 24' x 50' 2 story barns. I can build a pc from the console up but these 3D design software can often be a HUGE problematic pain in the butt to get them to do what should be simple processes of like just moving a tab to a new location, and you suggest that I just build the whole tool box from scratch? 

     You asked why not learn how to use Fusion anyway. It's because there are MANY people who have MUCH more to do in life than to go thru the vigorous and lengthy process of becoming a fluent user of the software when MANY people, who want to print with the 3D printers, are justifiably not wanting to learn how to completely design their own models, but are wanting to print things in general that have already been designed by other people who have a MUCH better understanding/experience with how to deign their own models, and then used by ourselves

    Me and my wife have a farm which means getting up at 5:30am, tending to the many chores involved with raising livestock. We have vehicles currently being repaired, house repairs currently being done, and the list goes on and on with the extensive schedule for the work detail that fills up most of a farmer's and other people's day whereby being lucky if we get to come back in by 8 at night to spend a little family time that we then have left and then go to bed to wake up and do it all again.

[TheCADWhisperer]

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@Anonymous wrote: 

     You asked why not learn how to use Fusion anyway. 

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In my experience - it takes less time to do it correctly than to attempt to put lipstick on a pig.

[chrisplyler]

I modeled something similar to your tool holder (don't know your dimensions of course). It took me less time than it took me to read your previous post. (Okay, not literally, but it was close!) But you're right...it took me probably 20 hours to learn how to really do it right and to do it that quickly.

But I would like to note something. You said you want to print models other people have already made. That isn't exactly true, is it? You want to print UNIQUE models that are SIMILAR to what other people have already made...but with mounting tabs in other places.

Also you said this should be such a simple process. Then you say that learning these types of software is time consuming. How can you understand the requirements of learning how to do things in such software, but still think that you should be able to just open it up the first time, click a couple of buttons, and have your mounting tab moved like magic? Seems contradictory to me.

We've all got busy lives man. I've got a family, four properties, car projects, a commercial construction company that I spend seventy hours a week on, etc., etc., etc. It's unlikely that this forum is filled with punk losers that sit around playing video games on their mom's console all day. Every single skill you have - working on cars, design/building barns, etc. - took you time to develop. You've wanted something in your life and - like a man instead of a lazy punk who sits around hoping but never getting - you invested the time required to work it out. I and a lot of others here have done the same. Please don't act like your choices are somehow more important than ours...like we could only possibly be good at Fusion because we don't have anything else to do.

[Anonymous]

Please pay attention to the actual point instead coming here to leave your useless responses whereby mostly coming from you jumping the gun to make assumptions and manipulating the actuality of the situation(s).

    I could go through your last reply and hit each lame point you made but I will just reply to you saying "Please don't act like your choices are somehow more important than ours...like we could only possibly be good at Fusion because we don't have anything else to do."

    I never acted like my choices are more important than yours... I irrefutably stated the facts for why I'm justified in going the route that I am and doing so for my own personal choices, but pathetic people like you take it personally and feel you have to come back to defend yourself/others which only fuels the argument further instead of you just having provided from the start what I specifically asked for which was the steps for how to remove the tab and reattach it elsewhere.

    If you don't know how or dont want to provide the steps on how to do it, then just keep your mouth shut and move onto someone else's post and then actually provide genuine help to them

   Incase you still dont get it, the bottom line is don't come to people's posts leaving useless comments of telling/suggesting them to just learn the software to build a whole new model, when they made it perfectly clear to you that's not what theyre here for and clearly by no means them even implying wanting help on how to do that.

   I'll ask you to stop replying to my post in order to prevent this useless back-n-forth stuff that doesn't solve anything, keeps fueling an argument, and just wastes both our time 

[chrisplyler]

Yeah, you're right. My apologies. I'm amazed such a hard working guy as yourself has time to reply to me at all.

[davebYYPCU]

So back on topic, could be that my steps may have been a bit brief...

it was quicker to move this tab, on the converted body, than to reconstruct it, even for Chris.

Lip stick on a pig, is a common term here when other complicated STL files have similar modifications requested, and the first thing that happens is the STL file size is too big for Fusion to convert.  Then it is a recommendation to reconstruct, rather than fuss with that larger STL.

That is not the case this time due mainly to the original having completely flat faces, and the Convert worked.  The conversion was perfectly ordinary, and the cut it, Mirror it, and join it was easier to do, than attempt to spell out the Move process.

I’ll presume you were making replies waiting for the print to finish.

[Anonymous]

Actually I've been still trying for the past couple nights to get further into the steps after the ones I had previously said I got to... after those steps that I mentioned, nothing is working like they were outlined to do or outlined to should have done... but not trying to point fingers at anyone by saying that

So to make things a bit quicker and easier for me, last night I posted an ad saying I would pay someone a few bucks, and I mean just a few bucks after they render me a working stl file with the changes I want on this tool box, and got a call a couple hours ago and turned out to be my neighbor's son down the road who said would do it for free. He downloaded the tool box files form thingverse and said he can definitely fix it and so coming over this weekend to show me how to do it.

Thanks for your time trying to help and hope you a great day 🐵 

[davebYYPCU]

First minute or so spent finding the Convert process, if you happen to be Capturing History, you need to cancel that.

A simple process, not sure how you are not there yet.

Might help....

[Anonymous]

History was definitely turned off.

I'll go ahead and try one more time and then I just gotta let my neighbor do it and then see if he can explain why so often times what people do in their video, is not how it does it in mine.

    In case it somehow changes how/why things show up and do different things than what others show, but it shouldn't change anything, I have ASUS Z97-A motherboard. Windows 8.1 Pro 64bit. Intel I5 4690K processor. 16GB DDR3 RAM. and Evga 1060 6GB G-Force GTX Graphics Card. 

    So far I started from from the beginning whereby inserting the tool box mesh file but immediately things were not the same on mine as what yours showed. Right after I inserted the tool box mesh file exactly as you did, my tool box came up with the mesh lines and I see that yours some how came up already without them

I'll keep following your steps from here anyways to see what happens

I attached a pic that shows how my tool box showed up immediately after inserting the mesh file

[Anonymous]

So now at your :38 sec time frame, you show opening up the mesh file from the "Bodies" drop-down menu and then you having the option of "Edit" but I don't have that option in my menu that opens up after having clicked open the options for the mesh file. I'm not saying that the "Edit" option was something you actually used in the step you did, I'm just showing how this happens all too often with things not showing up the same or doing the same as what others show their same software as doing.

I attached a pic. It's a screen shot with my camera since my screen capture software keeps closing the drop down menu for the mesh file when I open the screen capture to take a snap shot of the screen

Well it's well past time to hit the bed... it's after 1am here and I've been tring over and over again to get my tool box to show up like yours did with no mesh lines right after having inserted the file, and been trying to do more of the steps you showed after that :38 sec time frame, but still having problems even though I REALLY liked how you were considerate to provide that animated mouse thing that showed what buttons you were clicking... tht does help a bit for beginners like me :o),  but hey before I get aggrivated even further  with this software, it's best i just walk away from it and leave it to others to do stuff like this for me when I can't download a 3d print file that is already in the form of what I need

Well thanks again... I certainly appreciate you trying to help

[davebYYPCU]

Gooday - Don't fuss on the lines in the display, Makes no difference to the job to be done, I can't handle unnecessary clutter, you will see lots of eyeball switching in the video that I didn't mention in the written text, and the display settings I use is Shaded, where as the Shaded with Visible Edges is the default and both / either are quite normal.  (Bottom menu 3rd from right hand end >) Display Settings > Visual Style > Shaded.

Another common reason things are different to what is shown, is the underlying preferences each user sets up, and the customised Menus, I have my common used tools in my top menu, but everyone has the same program, Personal Licence has some data / file handling restrictions.

When I insert the Mesh, I have History turned ON, and my drop menus are bog standard.  Fusion edits these drop menus, removing tools you cant use as the interface is being used, So Edit is there.  I then did edit the mesh, to show that you still can't convert, and you do have to switch History off.  History Off when you insert, (Edit is a History function,) so it is not in the Menu.  this Menu trimming is common right throughout Fusion. 

Then I switch off history, and the rest is plain sailing.

Screencasts record the mouse click for the teaching purposes, I have horrendous audio on my machine and prefer not to use it.

2 minute job when the interface is set up for it.

Might help....