High Resolution Displays

High Resolution Displays

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High Resolution Displays

Anonymous
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I have a 13" MacBook Pro with a beautiful "retina" display.  Fusion 360 is virtually unuable at this pixel density unless you press your face up against the screen.  Some UI elements are readable and others not, so I can see there is some development here.  Is this scenerio under review?  Is it a "known bad" UI experience that is being worked on?  I suspect with the growing popularity of high resolution dispays this will be a growing complaint.

 

My display is 13" and 2560 x 1600 resolution.  I run Windows 10.  Windows recomends this native resolution of course, and Windows also recommends 200% scaling which I feel is spot-on judging by other OS graphical elements such as icons, text, dialogs, etc.

 

I know this has been discussed before but I saw at one point that an update "improved" scaling performance.  I'm hoping there are more improvements to come.

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Anonymous
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Here is an example of where scaling nearly renders Fusion unusable.  Look at the drop downs for Materials, Coolant, and Units.  Mind you, on my screen this image is only 2" square.  I can barely see these dropdowns enough to click them.

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promm
Alumni
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Hello Paul,

 

It sounds like you must be running parallels or bootcamp on your mac with windows 10.  Your UI experience is a result of changing the scaling to 200%, by making this change you are doubling the size of what we optimize for.  You are correct, we had an update with new icons for Fusion 360 running on a retina display.  This update was to address Fusion 360 with screen resolutions for their native OS platforms.  My suggestion is to run Fusion 360 on the computers Mac OS or lower your scaling.

 

Cheers,

 

Mike Prom

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Anonymous
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@promm, Yes, Bootcamp.  This is just like the experience anybody would have with Wndows on a 13" laptop with such a high resolution (probably not many).  Your suggestion to not use scaling makes the entire computer impossible to use.  EVERYTHING will be too small to read.  It makes Fusion look consistent, but unusably so.  OS scaling is normal, recommended, even default for high resoultion displays.  All other software I have deals with scaling just fine except Fusion.  Additionally, on the Mac side, scaling is also used, and also by default.  But, on the Mac side, Fusion looks ok at all of the scale settings.  So, something is handled differently and should be looked at.

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kellings
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I'm running into this same issue. I just installed Windows 10 on my my MBP with Retina display. Yes, I could just run Fusion using OS X. However, what if I bought one of the many new Windows only computers available today with a high resolution display?

 

Also, one of the reasons I use Windows for Fusion at times is becasue of the better CNC editor and backplotter. MIA on the OS X side.

 

Kevin

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Anonymous
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I suspect this will get attention when it becomes more widespread of a problem.
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O.Tan
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While I agree that this issue should be solved, I believe the solution isn't the same as OSX when it comes to High Resolution Display is because the way how Windows handles high resolution scaling is very different then OSX.


Omar Tan
Malaysia
Mac Pro (Late 2013) | 3.7 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon E5 | 12GB 1.8 GHz DDR3 ECC | Dual 2GB AMD FirePro D300
MacBook Pro 15" (Late 2016) | 2.6 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7 | 16GB 2.1 GHz LPDDR3 | 4GB AMD RadeonPro 460
macOS Sierra, Windows 10

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Anonymous
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hI EVERYBODY! I apologize for my bad english I'm an italian architect and I have just bought a new Asus netbook with a wonderful display of 3560x2400 resolution but... I can use Photoshop very well and other apps but it is really impossible managing AUTOCAD (EVEN IF i HAVE THE LATEST VERSION) BECAUSE OF THE TERRIBLE SCALING!  I tried different solution but the only possibility seems to that of reducing the resolution penalizing other photo editor programs.. Can you give me some suggestions? thank you! Silvia

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O.Tan
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Wrong forum, this is the Fusion 360 Forum, Autocad have their own forums here:

http://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad/ct-p/8


Omar Tan
Malaysia
Mac Pro (Late 2013) | 3.7 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon E5 | 12GB 1.8 GHz DDR3 ECC | Dual 2GB AMD FirePro D300
MacBook Pro 15" (Late 2016) | 2.6 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7 | 16GB 2.1 GHz LPDDR3 | 4GB AMD RadeonPro 460
macOS Sierra, Windows 10

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Anonymous
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Thank you.. Yes I know... but yhe problem is the same! And Autodesk is doing nothing..

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promm
Alumni
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Hello,

 

I wanted to follow up on this thread.  In the last update we made changes to the icons so that they scale with the resolution.

 

Here is an example of before:

Surface before update.png

 

And here it is now:

Surface after.png

 

Cheers,

 

Mike Prom

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Anonymous
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oh I see! but the update doesn't fit for Autocad, does it?

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promm
Alumni
Alumni

@Anonymous,

 

The solution we created for Fusion 360 does not affect AutoCAD.

 

Cheers,

 

Mike Prom

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O.Tan
Advisor
Advisor
just a heads up, Fusion and Autocad are Autodesk products, but the team behind each products are different, hence you need to go to their own forum to address them 🙂


Omar Tan
Malaysia
Mac Pro (Late 2013) | 3.7 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon E5 | 12GB 1.8 GHz DDR3 ECC | Dual 2GB AMD FirePro D300
MacBook Pro 15" (Late 2016) | 2.6 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7 | 16GB 2.1 GHz LPDDR3 | 4GB AMD RadeonPro 460
macOS Sierra, Windows 10

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Anonymous
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Mike, how do you get this update with the improved scaling?
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brianrepp
Community Manager
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@Anonymous If you're on the current version of Fusion, you should have the update.  Is it not working as expected?

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Anonymous
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Hi
I have just got a surface book i7 16Gb 500 Gb SSD
auto desk is very very small on the high res screen.
I can not read half the stuff!
Also lines like the red blue and green guide lines are very hard to see ,
as , I assume they are made from a certain number of pixels .
And the icons are tiny.
I spend nearly £2500 on this new computer so I could use auto desk!

It works fine on my friends ,18 month old surface pro , but that has a
lower res screen.

Also the program has not been optimized to work with touch screens yet.
I'm getting by , by connecting to a big TV, , but obviously this is a
trestrictive tempers fix.
Many thanks for getting back to me.
Looking forward to a swift resolution.
Paul m
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Anonymous
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Hi
I have just got a surface book i7 16Gb 500 Gb SSD
auto desk is very very small on the high res screen.
I can not read half the stuff!

also the red green and blue guide lines are very hard to see , I assume as it uses a set number of pixels .
And the icons are tiny.


I spend nearly £2500 on this new computer so I could use auto desk!
It works fine on my friends 18 month old

surface pro , but that has a lower res screen.

Also the program has not been designed to work with touch screens yet.
I'm getting by , by connecting to a big TV, but obviously this is a trestrictive tempers fix.
Many thanks for getting back to me.
Looking forward to a swift resolution.
Paul m

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Anonymous
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The face selection box, top right , is very small can not see most of the clickable surfaces.

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