Help with cabinets and copy

[potlsnekkeri]

Hello
need help with being able to copy this cabinet so that it becomes 4 pcs in width and 4 pcs in height, and being able to change cabinets individually.
I know how to copy and make 4 pieces in width and height, but then everyone will get shelves if I make shelves in one of the cabinets.
I have tried to make boudary fill of a cabinet, but then I get an error.
what is the procedure here

https://a360.co/3VfZNM9

[JamesLodge01]

Hi @potlsnekkeri 

I think I understood what you were attempting to create.

Attached is a fully parametric version of your design for review.

If you go into the Parameters; Solid (tab) >> Modify (panel drop-down) >> Parameters

You can modify the maxHeight, maxWidth and maxDedth and the shelf Count. This will produce you a cabinet of any dimension with any number of equally spaced shelves.

In this example I used a Skeleton Modelling approach, so check out the sketches used to generate the panel profiles. I created the back panel using the same sketches but with an offset for the extrusion start.

Also take a look at the parametric equations I used for generating the equally spaced shelves, this approach can be applied in any direction where components (or bodies) need to be patterned.

Please let me know if this helps.

[potlsnekkeri]

hello i wil look at it 🙂

[g-andresen]

Hi,

Is it about the pattern of shelves in a single cabinet or the individual number of shelves in several identical cabinets?

günther

[JamesLodge01]

Apologies, I just noticed an issue with my equations, I will post an updated version shortly. I'm also adding in a separator.

[davebYYPCU]

I'm with Gunther, multiple cabinets with different shelf counts.

[potlsnekkeri]

Hello, to avoid having to draw up all the cabinets, I want to copy them so that I get 8 cabinets, 4 on the bottom and 4 on the top, That's fine, I'll fix it.
Then I will make different types of furnishings in the different cabinets. What happens when I create a shelf say in cabinets 1, then all other cabinets will also get that shelf, because cabinets are copies. How do I avoid that?

[davebYYPCU]

You don't Pattern the assembly.

You must Copy and then Paste New (Multiple times)

Or you can Pattern the Assembly and make new independent Component for shelves,

Joint and Pattern them as required.

Might help....

[JamesLodge01]

Providing im understanding this correctly:

Create your "master" Cabinet. This will allow you to drive the shelf count and sizes.

1. Start a new design and insert the master cabinet into the current design.

2. Break the Link on the inserted cabinet from the Master. (Right-click in browser and select Break link in local menu)

3. Copy this unlinked Cabinet and "Paste New" a number of times and apply the required constraints for positioning.

4. As each cabinet in the new design is unlinked, you can change the size and shelf count as they are independent.

[davebYYPCU]

.. you can change the size and shelf count as they are independent.

Only true if you Paste New.  

Steps 1 and 2 are not necessary, (just optional.)

Might help....

[JamesLodge01]

Correct, I missed the Paste New. - Updated

[JamesLodge01]

Hi @potlsnekkeri I updated the Template Master and also generated you an Assembly for you to examine with 4 Unlinked Parametric Cabinets.

When I brought the Master into my new Assembly Design I performed the following:

1. Start a new design and insert the master cabinet into the current design. Rotate to desired orientation.

2. Break the Link on the inserted cabinet from the Master. (Right-click in browser and select Break link in local menu)

3. Activate the newly inserted, unlinked sub assembly and make necessary changes.

4. Create a Rigid Group.

5. Rename the copied Subassembly.

6. Activate the Top level and repeat.

7. After rotating, move into position (Vertical or Horizontal)

UPDATED TO SUIT RECORDING. New file seen with recording.

[potlsnekkeri]

thanks i wil look into it soon.

i use the copy tool when i copy the cabinet,is that wrong?

[JamesLodge01]

Its not wrong. Just make sure you use the Paste New to ensure the components are not associated with the original's.

My preferred way of working (everyone is different) is to work on a file, in this instance the Parametric Cabinet Example. When I'm happy with the functionality I can then use it as a template for creating other new designs.

Because I can add this to any new design and remove the linking  and parametrically drive the "new" variant, it is then possible to generate an infinite amount of designs and configurations if you want to take it that far. 

I added the different workflows as food for thought. 

[JamesLodge01]

@potlsnekkeri - Sorry I read that wrong 🙂

There are a few methods of copying solids and components. You need the following:

1. Select each component in the browser. 

2. Right click and select Copy from the local menu.

3. Then right-click in the graphics window where the design sits and select Paste New form the local menu.

[TrippyLighting]

My recommendation would be to design this as an external component/assembly and use the Configurations features to create different configurations for the different cabinets.

Then insert a the configurations of the cabinet into the main design.

If you are using a free subscription you are limited to the workflow @JamesLodge01 posted.   Quite workable, but not as elegant as Configurations.

[JamesLodge01]

Hey @potlsnekkeri 

As per my other shared files,, here is the Master Cabinet using Configuration's and an Assembly containing a version of each.

As @TrippyLighting mentioned, if you are using the full license you can open the files for further examination.

So when you pull it all together, Named Parameters and Equation Driven Dimensions used to create a Fully Parametric Model it can then be driven using Configurations (easier to create with named parameters). The example you see has the different shelf configurations as before and I have added different appearances to help you explore the workflow further.

[JamesLodge01 · Accepted solution]

@potlsnekkeri - Recording Attached as requested with model used in recording showing Break Link and Model Adjustment Workflow

1. Start a new design and insert the master cabinet into the current design. Rotate to desired orientation.

2. Break the Link on the inserted cabinet from the Master. (Right-click in browser and select Break link in local menu)

3. Activate the newly inserted, unlinked sub assembly and make necessary changes.

4. Create a Rigid Group.

5. Rename the copied Subassembly.

6. Activate the Top level and repeat.

7. After rotating, move into position (Vertical or Horizontal)

[potlsnekkeri]

Thanks for the video .This was what i needed:-).thanks for all help 👌