FILLET PROBLEM (ASSEMBLY)

FILLET PROBLEM (ASSEMBLY)

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FILLET PROBLEM (ASSEMBLY)

San_Escobar
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Hey Folks. 

I just came about to start to assemble another project on Fusion, GREAT! almost done.. However, for my paranoia and disapointment, I have OPEN the file and its all beautifull, but when I create a New File for assemble as I usually do I got several errors on the model stating that the fillets are broken or whatever is. Please check the screencast. 




Also I tried to re-edit the feature and it get worst, any thought. 

Cheers. 

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NicolasXu
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Hi 

 

The error shown in red icon typically means the inputs of the feature are lost somehow. The reason could be various but obviously something is wrong in your case.

 

Would it be possible to share the model with us for a deeper look? You can either Export the file as .F3d format or Share Public Link with me by enabling the download permission. Both commands are available under the File menu. My email address: lixiong.xu@autodesk.com

 

BTW, we will introduce the new insert mechanism soon, to better support the assembly workflow like this. Just FYI-

http://forums.autodesk.com/t5/fusion-360-product-roadmap/distributed-design-in-fusion-360/ba-p/55495...

 

Best Regards,



Nicolas Xu
Sr. SQA Eng.
Fusion 360 Quality Assurance Team
Autodesk, Inc.
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San_Escobar
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Hi NicolasXu

I understand the Red Highlighted Features (RHF) has some issue, and the yellow has related history with the RHF.

 

What is happening, seems that Fusion is understanding the the reference edges of the model is missing which is not the case. All I need to do is reset the damaged

features, like Edit and Ok. Thats all, no need to select anything as it is all selected as initially, so that Fusion can re-calculate the feature. I thought it could be due to

complexity of the model, but this issue is presenting even on simple part. 

FEATURE ISSUE.jpg

 

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NicolasXu
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Hi Silvio,

 

Thanks for sharing me the model. Actually, the model itself had some problem but Fusion didn’t detect it until the model was inserted.

 

We can just click the Compute All button under the Modify panel on the ribbon to see the same error. The Insert operation is just rebuilding the model based on the history then the issue is exposed.

 

I’m looking into the model and try to figure out the root cause. Meanwhile, I have repaired the model and send back to you via email. I will follow up with the development team for that. What I did is, click Compute All, then edit each feature to make sure they get upated. You can either import my model as a new version or repair it on your side. 

 

BTW, Compute All should be a good way to make sure there is no problem in the model history. Hope it helps.

 

Best Regards,



Nicolas Xu
Sr. SQA Eng.
Fusion 360 Quality Assurance Team
Autodesk, Inc.
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San_Escobar
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The model has some problem? I wonder how  can it be to add a fillet without select an edge. That is what is happening. In my POV I understand that, if there is not selected edge there will be not fillet, correct? If there is not fillet Fusion should not miscalculate it, or COMPUTE ALL behind the scenes so its automatic right and so it would have no error as there is no edge select and so no problem caused. Smiley Indifferent

Thanks for advice about Computer All, what awkward way to make sure the model is right, I am having the impression that I will need to learn Fusion rather than 3D principles. No Offense!

Thank you for your attention.

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NicolasXu
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Hi Silvio,

I meant Fusion thinks the model has some "problems" during re-compute of the history. It may or may not be a false alarm (I need follow up to confirm it).

Even if it's a real problem, I agree that the error looks strange in such case because just editing and clicking OK can correct it.

I'm out of the office in the next two days. I will work with the development team to understand the root cause.

Was the design started from a release before or after March? The information could be helpful for us to investigate the root cause.

Best Regards,
Nicolas


Nicolas Xu
Sr. SQA Eng.
Fusion 360 Quality Assurance Team
Autodesk, Inc.
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San_Escobar
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Hey Nicolas

Thanks for your attention mate. All the issues that I am facing with Fusion started from last AUTOFORCED update. 

Its probably because I been big mouth saying that I did not like updates and now here I am begging for the next update, and finger crossed here, for it to be my salvation. 

Cheers!

 

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NicolasXu
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Hi Silvio,

 

I looked into the model today and here are more information.

 

Before the re-compute, the fillet has two edges in the selection, and after the re-compute, the fillet has only one edge in the selection (sorry, I didn’t figure it out in my previous investigation). So from this point, we can understand Fusion reports warning because one edge reference is lost. Please see the screenshot below.

 

However, the question is why the reference is lost after re-compute. I have reported the problem in our tracking system (FUS-18156) and asked the development team to take a further look. As a workaround, we may edit the fillet and re-select the edge via holding CTRL key (Command key on Mac). Sorry for the inconvenience.

 

Fillet Error.png

 

 



Nicolas Xu
Sr. SQA Eng.
Fusion 360 Quality Assurance Team
Autodesk, Inc.
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San_Escobar
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Thanks for the heads up

Due to several issue I have Re-installed Fusion and other stuffs on my computer from scratch and double checking all the models created since I started to face problems with Fusion, its seems to work fine now.   

The Installations were:


* BIOS
* ST Microelectronics
* AMD Drivers (From Scratch)
* New Fusion Installation

Not sure where the problem laid, but seems to be running well now, lets see if its stabilise now. 

Cheers.



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NicolasXu
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Thanks for the information. Good to know you can go on with the work without such problems.

 

We will continue the investigation for a solution.



Nicolas Xu
Sr. SQA Eng.
Fusion 360 Quality Assurance Team
Autodesk, Inc.
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