DOES AUTODESK FUSION 360 SUPPORT LINUX OS

[Anonymous]

HELLO 

I WOULD LIKE TO DOES AUTODESK FUSION 360 SUPPORT LINUX OS

AND 

WHICH WOULD BE THE BEST PROCSSER FOR FUSION IF I AM HANDELING LARGE CAM AND COMPLEX 3D ASSEMLY

LET ME KNOW

[daniel_lyall]

@lichtzeichenanlage That is why I use Apple now.

The Linux lot need to get a handle on its community members first a lot of people don't use it because they asked a simple question they could not find the answer for and got trolled. 

[lichtzeichenanlage]

@daniel_lyall: The obvious was because of "It's a question of time but you'll be "forced" to develop it  for Linux" . I'm using Unix system now for 25+ years or so. I love them on the server side. I can live with it on the desktop side, but I'm not preferring it. It does not matter much in my professional life (development) and in my private live I don't like it, because it's a constant compromise between "software I want to have", "getting it running on specific hardware" etc. 

I don't like this thread because here are so many comments that are ... ignorant, wrongly simplifying thing, far a way from reality, without a sense for product management, cost of development or business in general. I don't find a good word for it. Some examples?

• Supporting Linux = more users = more money -> What's about the growing development, test and support, infrastructure, training etc. costs? They don't count.
• Just change the installer. Community will do the rest. -> If you can't install it, how can you know that it's just the installer. It might be, but knowing? And if it doesn't work. So nobody will flood the support forum with questions? Hard to believe. 
• Not making it open source is dumb. -> I'm a fan of open source. I can see companies growing in this business. But that's not the only way to run a business. And those ways are not dumb. And how can you say "make it open source" without knowing the underlying / used licences? What's about the services? Opensource them, too? Would be funny to see what happens to a company like AD
• Actually millions of people are using Linux without knowing it. Android uses a linux kernel -> True and a nice marketing statement. But this deeply specialized version of Linux doesn't have much to do with a desktop (and that's what we are talking about). Or should we include routers, IOT devices etc., too? BTW: I'm using android phones, tablets etc. 
• It's a question of time but you'll be "forced" to develop it for Linux -> Sure after 25 years it's just a question of time. 

• Anyway I would prefer a native application over any web based solution, like the most people.

  It works better, more fluent, without internet connection. And I can keep may designs private and don't get forced to store this in any cloud. -> Sure, nativ applications are great. Most people? Large companies do like reducing cost for software role outs. Just because it's native designs are local? Are we still talking about Fusion 360?

I'm not trolling Linux users. I just don't like ignorant arguments. And BTW: My comment regarding "forced to develop for linux" did have arguments against several platforms and contained a smiley. 

@TheCADWhisperer: I don't see an article where the describe why it's just a question of time but you'll be "forced" to develop it  for Linux. English is not my native language. Can you provide a link?

[daniel_lyall]

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• Supporting Linux = more users = more money -> What's about the growing development, test and support, infrastructure, training etc. costs? They don't count.
• 3 OS to develop at the sametime 
• Just change the installer. Community will do the rest. -> If you can't install it, how can you know that it's just the installer. It might be, but knowing? And if it doesn't work. So nobody will flood the support forum with questions? Hard to believe.  ?????
• Not making it open source is dumb. -> I'm a fan of open source. I can see companies growing in this business. But that's not the only way to run a business. And those ways are not dumb. And how can you say "make it open source" without knowing the underlying / used licences? What's about the services? Opensource them, too? Would be funny to see what happens to a company like AD
• Why should they
• Actually millions of people are using Linux without knowing it. Android uses a linux kernel -> True and a nice marketing statement. But this deeply specialized version of Linux doesn't have much to do with a desktop (and that's what we are talking about). Or should we include routers, IOT devices etc., too? BTW: I'm using android phones, tablets etc. 
• Sarcastic reply from me
• It's a question of time but you'll be "forced" to develop it for Linux -> Sure after 25 years it's just a question of time. 
• If the amount of Linux user incrased by 40% yer it would make be a go

• Anyway I would prefer a native application over any web based solution, like the most people.

  It works better, more fluent, without internet connection. And I can keep may designs private and don't get forced to store this in any cloud. (You are not forced to do ths at all it is the main option)-> Sure, nativ applications are great. Most people? Large companies do like reducing cost for software role outs. Just because it's native designs are local? Are we still talking about Fusion 360?

I'm not trolling Linux users. I just don't like ignorant arguments. And BTW: My comment regarding "forced to develop for linux" did have arguments against several platforms and contained a smiley.     

I all most whent with linux I had a question I needed an aswer to and got told to rtfm and f off, the answer was not in the manual at that time, it was in the 2.7 manual it was to late by then.   

All that does not matter When they did the plan for fusion for over 20 years how many people are useing a linux computer, not based or diffrent verson, bugger all are useing it.

Then the risks if we do will it incress the user base over other OS = maybe.

Can we aford to take this gamble = NO.

Can we controll our program in linux how we wont = ???

The apple verson can be ported over easyily, the amount of times that has been said with no prof.

For ADSK to do a Linux verson now how many $1000 are linux users going to pay, it is all down to cost.

Then theres the all my other programs are apple or windows only why should I change.

Me I have to use 3 computers to get stuff done 2 Windows and 1 Imac, all my cad programs are windows based and fusion on the Imac I only use 4 cad/cam programs and a 5th if I need to.

 And yes I understand all the whys, why linux would be a good idea, same with Apple.

[lichtzeichenanlage]

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[daniel_lyall]

My added input @lichtzeichenanlage that is all, I know you are not a native English speaker. 

[lichtzeichenanlage]

thx.

[Anonymous]

Boo.

[themetricguy]

> True but when it comes to makeing money millions does not cut it at all,

Well, in that case money has nothing to with it. Because currently software companies spent very little on the development. So would it be MacOS, Windows, Linux, BeOS or all together it would still take a tiny fraction of the budget that goes to the marketing team.  It's all about politics. Autodesk, just like as many other software vendors, feels threatened by free software community,  hence no version for Linux.

[TheCADWhisperer]

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@themetricguy wrote:

Autodesk, just like as many other software vendors, feels threatened by free software community,  hence no version for Linux.

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Sounds like a wide-open opportunity!

[etfrench]

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@themetricguy wrote:

> True but when it comes to makeing money millions does not cut it at all,

Well, in that case money has nothing to with it. Because currently software companies spent very little on the development. So would it be MacOS, Windows, Linux, BeOS or all together it would still take a tiny fraction of the budget that goes to the marketing team.  It's all about politics. Autodesk, just like as many other software vendors, feels threatened by free software community,  hence no version for Linux.

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Is there anything in these statements that is a verifiable fact?  If so, provide references. 

[Bug.Robotics]

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@Anonymous wrote:

Incorrect. OSX is better (at some stuff) because it has a direction and clear goals, and one team. Linux is the wild west, developed by uncoordinated people. It is only natural that it's not as polished. I run Linux, OSX and Windows depending on what I need. Linux is a really good server platform or developer workstation, OSX is the perfect audio/video or design desktop/laptop machine, and windows is the best 3D and gaming platform. I tend to use the best tool for the job.

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@Anonymous has restored some hope in humanity.

[cekuhnen]

With all the respect for Linux one has to consider also the fact when people like Linus makes comments about why Linux is not getting their act together.

@Bug.Robotics  Like he said the main issue is not Linux itself but the fragmentation among all the distributions.

in web servers, data servers, medical field and some specialized 3d areas (Pixar) they fully embrace Linux but often have their own army of coders to help and develop their own software and tools.

But that is really beyond what the average joe can do and needs.

[cekuhnen]

“Autodesk, just like as many other software vendors, feels threatened by free software community,  hence no version for Linux.”

That is complete bonkers and American conspiracy quality material.

Market reality is much more a reason.

linux with its fragmentation does not offer the development stability one needs - period.

even those companies like affinity that go against adobe do not offer Linux.

when will you guys get it finally ?

[Anonymous]

There is no way a company like Autodesk will support Linux.

Not because they hate it or don't want it, but because it's to expensive.

Even Linus Torvalds is anoid by the fact that all those different distributions aren't binary compatible.

Linux is a hell of a mess on the desktop.

The lack of conventions that Linux developers see as a unique selling point is the major pain in the butt for the regular user. No consistency.

In my opinion all those forks of distributions en programs is proof of the infant behaviour of the Linux tech community. Work together en reduce the mess and decision stress for consumers. Maybe then a platform will arise that is workable for money minded companies like Autodesk.

I would enjoy Fusion 360 on Linux, but I can't blame Autodesk for not bothering with it.

[Bug.Robotics]

I guess I deserve this for dreading up an old post. I was reading through
this thread the other day when I read the bolded text I included in my
response above (regarding right tool for the job) and thought for some
reason I should post about that. It was refreshing to hear someone someone
take that position. That is the reason I posted, not because I'd like
Fusion on Linux (would be cool though ;-)).

[daniel_lyall]

There is a thing on GitHub for getting fusion working with Linux, don't if it works or not.

[Anonymous]

I think Autodesk should really consider putting together a linux verison of autodesk. How hard can it really be to port over from OSX. 

[Anonymous]

I agree if it has been ported to OSX it can't be that far off from a linux port. Autodesk should really consider porting it to linux. I have been using fusion360 under wine but it keeps on breaking with their updates.

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@Anonymous wrote:

If you can port it to mac then it can be ported to Linux, What is it about Linux that makes you not want to support Linux users

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[Anonymous]

But the thing is OSX and linux based operating systems are very similiar and it probably would only require re linking of libraries to compile Fusion360 for linux. 

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@kb9ydn wrote:

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@Anonymouswrote:

If you can port it to mac then it can be ported to Linux, What is it about Linux that makes you not want to support Linux users

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I believe the problem is one of return on investment, specifically lack thereof.  CAD applications are VERY complex and are therefore very expensive to develop (unless it's done by volunteers, which is not Autodesk).  Unless Autodesk can see that they are likely to get a significant return on the huge investment it would take to develop a Linux version, there is no motivation for them to do so.  I know Linux users don't like to admit it (I've been a Linux user since 1995, so I have some idea) but they are a very small minority compared to MS Windows and OSX users.  

And really, it makes perfect sense to do a browser based version for everyone else that isn't Windows or OSX.  This (at least in theory) would allow any operating system that can support a web browser to use Fusion.  That's about as universal as it gets.

C|

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[Anonymous]

I wouldn't bother if I were Autodesk.

If the Linux community can't work together to make all distributions binary compatible, why take a chance that your product ends up in a flamewar like Systemd Vs init.

Maybe if there was one base distribution then it would be possible.