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Determination of a flow cross section over the angle of a curved geometry

jarrao.privat
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Determination of a flow cross section over the angle of a curved geometry

jarrao.privat
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‎05-06-2020 06:27 AM

Hello, everyone,
I have a small problem for a longer time, which I unfortunately cannot solve.
I would like to determine the flow cross-sectional area of two overlapping parts.
As an example I have a ball valve. If a ball valve is completely open, i.e. the opening degree = 100 %, the flow cross-sectional area is pi / 4 * d^2 .
When the ball closes, the cross-section decreases over the angle.

Unfortunately, it is not so easy to determine this cross-section, because the flow cross-section is defined in such a way that the resulting velocity vector points normally to this surface.

A colleague has created an Excel table for a simple case. He did this by placing a plane in the surface and then linking the angle of rotation to the surface in CATIA Kinematics. This resulted in a table with opening angle to the cross-sectional surface.

For more complex geometries, like the ones I have attached here, I unfortunately did not make it and I did not find anybody who would know how to do it.

Does anyone of you have an idea how I could do this with Fusion 360 or any other CAD software or whatever?

 

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‎05-07-2020 01:13 PM
This forum is for discussions about Fusion 360's collaboration tools. I'm moving this post to the Design Document Validate forum where you'll be more likely to get some help.
 
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jarrao.privat
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‎05-14-2020 02:09 AM

To make it more clear what i´m tryining to do, i attached some more screenshots. 
I try to get the marked flow area for all given angles. 

 

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‎05-14-2020 04:10 AM

Hi @jarrao.privat.

Could you share this model? I would like to see it and think about it.

Leonardo Brunelli do Nascimento
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jarrao.privat
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‎05-15-2020 12:04 PM

Hello, Leo,


I have only roughly created the model for demonstration purposes.
So I had already deleted it, but I redesigned it again and attached it to this post.

It would be really astonishing if you get the problem solved, because I have already talked to several CAD engineers, but only one of them was able to reproduce a small part of the surface with Catia kinematics.

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