Derive fixture

Derive fixture

nubrandao
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Derive fixture

nubrandao
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Hi, maybe I'm doing something wrong 

 

I usually start open a step file, component, sketch, some modify in the model and save.

 

Now, I derive a fixture like a vise.

I choose a vise and ok

 

Then start joint a my vise to my component, but starts asking to capture position, and the parts move, I can joint, but I usually don't get at firsts, 

 

It's important that my component don't move, only the fixture,

 

Should I break link of my fixture?

 

The I need to flip my fixture vise,

 

Derive again a new one, 

 

Most the time the component move, some time revert position, 

 

But when I start machining, the stock from the first don't align with the second

 

My question here is:

 

In order to my part be always in the same position, what should I do?

Ground parent?

Break link fixture? Capture position?

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Christoph_360
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Hello

 


@a.laasW8M6T  wrote:

 

See video on my thoughts on patterns in Fusion.


 

Thank you very much for these valuable contributions and videos.

 

I'm looking for a suitable workflow to machine a part in multiple setups on one fixture.

 

Using a Model "Stages of Design for Manufacturing", I created a possible workflow.

 

(view in My Videos)

 

I will deal with a workflow for a Step-Model at a later date.

 

Thanks

 

Christoph

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a.laasW8M6T
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Hi

There is certainly a lot of thought and effort gone into that setup!

 

If I'm understanding that you would like to simulate all setups at once and have stock removal for all etc I have made some slight adjustments that seem to work correctly

 

See video and file

(view in My Videos)

Andrew Laas
Senior Machinist, Scott Automation


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Christoph_360
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Hello

 


@a.laasW8M6T  wrote:

 

If I'm understanding that you would like to simulate all setups at once and have stock removal for all etc I have made some slight adjustments that seem to work correctly.


Thank you for the support

 

With the help of the video, I got to know new possibilities and was able to gain many new insights.

 

Some of the highlights for me in the Video were:

 

Defining the setup of the 1st setup

 

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Sorting the tools

 

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Simulating the NC code

 

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Stock Contours Selection

 

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Thanks

 

Christoph

 

Message 24 of 25

Christoph_360
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Hello

 

I found yet another workflow where I only need to define one setup.

 

The only disadvantage of this workflow is that the X, Y and Z Coordinates can only be output by one Work Coordinate System and thus no logical values can be displayed in the NC code. But for each Workpiece, a separate WCS Offset can be defined and thus it works perfectly.

 

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(view in My Videos)

 

Thanks

 

Christoph

 

 

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Message 25 of 25

Christoph_360
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Hello

 


@a.laasW8M6T  wrote:

 

I wouldn't use Manufacturing Models AT ALL, they don't work properly as you have found with transferring stock from preceding setups, all your workholding models etc should be done in Design only.

 

Manufacturing models were really designed for nesting/ arrange workflows, they do not have the ability to use sync view and visibility.


Thank you very much for this valuable information, I have also dealt with the Manufacturing Model, but could never see any benefit, because everything can be solved much easier, more flexibly and clearer in the DESIGN, and you also have very limited functionality when using the Manufacturing Model.

 

If, for example, Configurations are used in the DESIGN for CAM applications, everything works perfectly.

 

(view in My Videos)

 

Thanks

 

Christoph

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