Cannot raise to power and square root

Cannot raise to power and square root

danpayneuk
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Cannot raise to power and square root

danpayneuk
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Hi 

 

I am currently trying to set parameters for a some chain ring designs.

 

Inserting the required formulas has been fine until this one.  

 

I try to add the following sqrt( F_ ^2) - (( 1.4 * dr )- p / 2 )^2

 

however due to F_ being another parameter it does not allow it to work.  If I change F_ so that it is a number then all works fine.

 

Is this something that can be fixed?

 

 

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Message 2 of 20

TheCADWhisperer
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I do not see units handling in your equation.

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Message 3 of 20

danpayneuk
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I chose inches in the drop down menu.

 

I have also tried with no units in the drop down menu and neither worked

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Message 4 of 20

TheCADWhisperer
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You must take account of canceling out units in your equation - just like in HS Math class.
Message 5 of 20

TheCADWhisperer
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Once you File>Export and then Attach your *.f3d file here - I can generate proper equation.

Here is one example.

Equation.PNG

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danpayneuk
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Hi Please find attached the f3d file as requested. I am also having a further issue regarding parameters and constraints when it comes to altering them, but I will discuss that in another post, unless preferred to keep it all in one post. Many thanks
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JDMather
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You have several errors in your construction. I recommend that you simplify the sketch to create only one tooth "valley" and then pattern feature rather than sketch. I recommend that you not create more than one entity at a time without fully defining your sketch at each and every step.

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JDMather
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The Attached document refers to SolidWorks and an Excel Spreadsheet, but the sketch construction technique is absolutely identical. As I find time - I will try to create example in Fusion 360 using your parameters. Bottom line - 1. Constrain every single entity as you create it. 2. Sketch only one tooth.

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JDMather
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Open the Attache file. Note that I create one entity - the Pitch Diameter and fully define it (turns black) and change to Construction (as it really is).

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JDMather
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Next Roller Clearance. Note that sketch is fully constrained.

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danpayneuk
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JDMather, thanks for your replies. I will look at the attached links and files. If I have any more questions I will come back to you. Thanks for for time looking at this.
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JDMather
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Angle A Note that the sketch is fully constrained. See a trend going on here?

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JDMather
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Angle B Note that sketch is fully constrained.

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JDMather
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yz offset Note that the sketch is fully constrained.

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JDMather
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W offset What do you notice about the sketch?

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JDMather
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One tooth profile.

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JDMather
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Pattern Feature is much more computationally efficient.

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danpayneuk
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Wow thanks for all the updates. I have just been looking over them and especially the last showing the pattern feature. The main reason for the parametric modelling is so that I can change the number of teeth and the model automatically update correctly. It appears the one you have drawn has the same issues as what I was finding. If you change the tooth count (n) the model does not correctly remodel as would of hoped.
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JDMather
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@danpayneuk wrote:
... If you change the tooth count (n) the model does not correctly remodel as would of hoped.

I didn't look at setting the number of teeth as parametric - I just typed in 16.

I will take a look tomorrow at setting the number of teeth parametric so that the part updates correctly.


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danpayneuk
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Hi JDmather

 

Did you possibly look at the reason why when altering the N value the model does not rebuild correctly?

 

I have tried numerous things and if changing more than once, especially for example n=16 to n=36 and then back to n=16, the model does not rebuild correctly.

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