Break Link Between Copied and Pasted Components

[Anonymous]

I have copied and pasted a component. When I make changes to one of the components it makes the same changes automatically to the other. In a previous thread I saw something about pasting new or making independent, but I cannot find those command in the Fusion 360 version that I am using (startup licience). Any other suggestions?

[Anonymous]

I mean doesn't copy the joints

[g-andresen]

Hi,

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@Anonymous  schrieb:

I mean doesn't copy the joints

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correct.
But I don't want that either when I use Paste New.

günther

[TrippyLighting]

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@Anonymous wrote:

I mean doesn't copy the joints

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I did a quick test and it does seem to copy he joint.

Can you share the design that exhibits that behavior ? (export as .f3d and attach to next post)

[g-andresen]

Hi,

Joints are transferred by Paste New to the copied instance only if they are inside the component.

günther

[Anonymous]

The file size is too large (>71 MB) to be attached here. Here is the link of the google drive folder. I also recorded a video of the process. https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1B0RnG47dxO0AFP1nPHozX5Jzpj_id8fD?usp=sharing 

I also noticed another bug. I tried to export the component (the same one). But, after exporting the component into my folder, one part of the extrusion is not saved.

NOTE: I am using an add-in, but that shouldn't be causing the problems.

[TrippyLighting]

This screenshot was taken from your video. Before you do anything , please make sure to fix the 20 warnings in your design. 

[Anonymous]

Hello. I resolved the errors, and I realized they were from the previous time I pasted new the component. After I resolved them, the errors appeared again after I paste new the component, meaning the paste new is causing the pasted components to get the errors. The joints weren't saved too again.

I uploaded the file without the errors with the new video of me trying to copy paste new, and you can see it created new errors.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1B0RnG47dxO0AFP1nPHozX5Jzpj_id8fD?usp=sharing

[jsteedWNGU4]

I have found that when copying a component from another project break link and paste new are not available. However, when I first copied the component (basic parametric rectangular steel tube) from one project to the one I was working on, and then copied that into my assembly I was able to break the link. 

[ruede_aeschlimann]

I'm normally very happy with Fusion 360 but it would be great if the linking issue would be solved.
Thanks!

[jhackney1972]

Take a look at Message #31 on page 2 of this Forum topic for a method to break the link between a component that has been "pasted" from the original.

[TrippyLighting]

@jhackney1972 what happens if you modify the sketch, for example, change a dimension, in one of the sketches in the original component?

[jhackney1972]

My mistake, changes to the base sketch and features, before the Boundry Fill do update the new component created with Boundary Fill process.  I guess I was not considering changes being made to the original base sketch or features before the Copy/Paste occurred.  Adding features to the original component and adding features to the component, created using the Boundry Fill, will not affect each other.

Thanks for the heads up as to my mistake, I apologize to anyone I lead astray.

[bhollywood]

still no worky, 2022!

[customsolutionsinc]

There have been many posts excusing seemingly simple break link tasks because fusion is free..... well im payning a yearly sub and find it extremely annoying that smaller tasks like copy and mirror result in an issue I have to find a work around. It seems as tho this thread got its one answer( now doesnt work), and we are left to use a different company to find a fix(google).... I am requesting a fix or at least a new response.....

I get notifications all the time about new features(that you have to pay extra for), when old isssues are not resolved. Lets get back to fixing core please autodesk. Thanks

[CAD01366S7]

Just bumped into this issue. There really should be a "break link" option or something similar like a replace component option that keeps the joints in place. There is an option for "replace component" when the component is external, but not internal, which also makes no sense.

[BenHarper-3Dtek]

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[geovolvoman]

While the answer works just fine, this is a fundamental failing of what is supposed to be a premium CAD package. I've used many other CAD systems in the past and many 3 dimensional packages of various types. This product is at best an Alpha release quality product you'd expect to see from a startup having their first go, not the market leader.

How this can possibly be used for manufacturing design is beyond me. Every other system where there is an option to make linked copies, it is a secondary function called 'Clone', and for every variant such as along a path, rotationally, freeform, there is the primary option to paste, and the secondary to clone a linked item. It is almost always the case that the clone can also be un-linked (permanently) and that option is usually very easy to find on a right click menu or right at the top of the object property editor.

In my frustration trying to learn this, I tried several other packages and sadly they either have a huge cost or lack the features I need. However, in the process, I opened up a 3D image file that defaulted to open in Adobe Photoshop. It took me seconds to be able to navigate the 3D workspace that I've never used before, edit the drawing at the node level, and add to the drawing, all using standard common UI actions that you see in any other UI design.

Ok, so I'm using free version software, but given the crippling restrictions (really, 10 items on an object based package?) and the steep cost to go for a paid version, that I see still has the same bad UI design, when the time comes to Purchase 3D CAD software, Adobe will be receiving my money for a full fat enterprise level suite for less than the price of entry level in this pile.

And seriously, give people some options, or learn which way scroll wheels work.

[TrippyLighting]

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@geovolvoman wrote:

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And seriously, give people some options, or learn which way scroll wheels work.

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There are plenty of options on the market. Solid Works, Solid Edge. Spaceclaim, ZW3D, Autodesk Iventor, IronCAD etc.

I have not named those products that are a magnitude more expensive than those that I have listed, as those already are several times more expensive than Fusion 360.

In over 30 years of professional CAD use I've learned that price is a great expectation leveler.

Also, this is for the most part a forum where mostly less experienced users seek help from mostly more experienced users. Most to the developers don't come here anymore.

I would not either if I had to interface with people like you!

[engineer1984]

I do think it is fair to get frustrated with this topic.  I don't support being a jerk. 

I also pay for a license.  I also see all the other new projects that come out from Fusion for extra subscriptions.   

The overall objective of using CAD is to draw Some Thing and then change it / modify it as necessary until you get Some Thing perfect enough for manufacture.  If the process of modifying / changing, etc becomes super difficult then the whole concept of CAD really does become muddier.  

That's my bigger picture.  I would love to never use CAD.  I use it because it helps me not make mistakes during actual manufacture.  Manufacturing can be very permanent / require starting over because you made a mistake.  CAD shouldn't be like that.  So if CAD becomes just as difficult to change as real life objects then you have a problem with the entire basic concept.  

Anyway, the software is still obviously use-able.  Yes, it's much cheaper than some other counterparts.  But, we all must admit that this is a frustrating problem.  It is a BASIC requirement to make CAD as easy to manipulate as possible.  The more CAD makes me think ahead, the more it loses the basic concept behind the idea of drawing before manufacture.  

Defending the lack of this function because of low subscription cost is, to me, pretty lame.  This seems to be a basic concept to having a good CAD software.  Much like 2D drawing creations for vendors and shop workers, but let's not go there either....

All that said, it's obviously a decent software which is where much of the frustration comes from.  The developers MUST know how to make this right, right?  Why are they releasing more and more tools and not addressing this?  

[TrippyLighting]

I've been an Engineer for over 30 years and have used 3D modeling, computer graphics and CAD software even longer. I've used a lot of other complex  non CAD software in my career as well. As such I am no stranger to frustration! 

That does not mean I come to this forum and with my first post make inflammatory and incompetent statements.

I did not defend the lack of this function, I posted options, which are all substantially more expensive than Fusion 360. They might have this particular feature ( and many others), but they might not have generative design, or builtin very capable CAM, or integrated electronics design. 

It doesn't matter whether or not I personally use these features. Lots of other people do. As such other people favor other priorities. 

Also, I did not just "suggest" these options. I come occasionally across situations where, believe it or not,  I need more advanced functionality, e.g, a Curve-on-Surface, or where a loft in Fusion 360 goes haywire that isn't a problem in the other CAD tool I use. I pay for Fusion 360 and I also paid for the other CAD software and it is much more expensive than Fusion 360.