Autodesk Fusion 360 or Autodesk Inventor file exports to Bobcad or Solidworks

Autodesk Fusion 360 or Autodesk Inventor file exports to Bobcad or Solidworks

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Autodesk Fusion 360 or Autodesk Inventor file exports to Bobcad or Solidworks

zenkustumz
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  Hey Everyone.. I am new to both of these programs so please have patience. I now just enough to make me dangerous. I've drawn up several designs and love the program and what it does for me. While posting my designs i have had an individual come to me and ask if he could manufacture some of my designs. Wow really.. ok..

  This is the sticky part. the machinest they have is 58 and not computer savy but uses bobcad, and knows a little about about solidworks. How can i export a file type so that his program can read what i have designed? Is there anything i need to turn off or send to make this work?

I appoligize in advance.

 

If someone has the ability to alter my files and assit please let me know.

 

Thank you.

 

John

 

 

 

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James.Youmatz
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Hi @zenkustumz,

 

I believe that both BobCAD and Solidworks can accept .STP file types which is a file type that Fusion 360 can export. If you go into the file menu in Fusion 360, and then select export, you should see an option to export as a .stp (step file). That should work for him. Perhaps fellow BobCAD users and Solidworks users can comment as to whether or not there is a preferred file type to export as, but I do believe that .stp should do the trick!

 

Thanks,

 

 



James Youmatz
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In the Browser (tree diagram on left side of the screen), right-click the component you want to export and select "Export...". In the pop-up dialog, save the file as an IGES, SAT, or STEP. It looks like BobCAD will read any of those file types. You shouldn't need to do anything else.

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I've done exctly that.. I'm thinking hes old school and just think he double clicks on it and it opens instead of importing it into the program..

 

 

Thank you both for the reply.. i thought i was going crazy..

 

 

John

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OK, this is a continuation of the original problem. with my drawing opened in bobcad the part seems to be just a 3d image of the part. we can not extract or manipulate any part of the drawing. is there anything i can do to remedy this other than redraw the whole part again but in bobcad?

 

Someone had mentioned that right clicking on a component and saving it. Is this possible with the drawing or is there a different method of accomplishing this.

 

Platforms should be more user friendly.. this is very confusing.

 

 

Thank you so much in advance and Im sorry for the tedious questions.

 

John

 

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TrippyLighting
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Drawings are 2D representations. A  model is usually a 3D representation. So what is it that you need to import into bobcad.

2D information, or 3D information, a drawing, or a 3D model ?


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What version of bobcad is he using, if it's one of the newer version's I think V23 on you should have no problems working with stp files.

 

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OK..i'm not sure i undestand terminology correctly. I want to get the dimentions or the part accross platform. what is the best way to do that?

 

Also the version is bobcad 26 that he is using. Again we opened the step files but in the program it seems that its just an image no way to pull dimensions,l radius, chamfer or fillets.. ets

 

If there is a way to do it in bobcad from the imported step file could someone explain the process..

 

 

VERY MUCH Appreciated

 

 

John

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Hey Hugh, the version is 26 and we can see the step file but me not knowing the program very well not sure how to go about seeing or what process to do to see the actual drawing parameters

 

Thank you for your input in advance

 

John

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TrippyLighting
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Im downloaded your step file imported it into Fuusion 360 and it looks like a fine 3D model to me. What are you referring to with "drawing paramenters" ?

Once you have exported the 3D model from Fusion 360 into .step you loose all of the parametric information.

 

A .step file only contains one or more solid bodies, but no design history or timeline etc.   


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It loads into bobcad v27 fine and I can select edges and create toolpaths no problem.

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One thing you might need to do is create a 2d drawing with sizes limits etc. you should probably be doing this anyway and you and the machinist sign it before production so you have some sort of record of what's expected.

 

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I see now bobcad doesn't seem to be able to take measurements from a solid very well. A way around this is create a layer curves then use from solid to extract all the edges.

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Then the measure tool will work on the curves. Unselecting surfaces from the selection filters will help.

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Also tell him to download Fusion he'll enjoy using it a lot more.Smiley Happy

 

Mark

 

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in bobcad is there a way to pull the parametric information so the machinest could make the part? Is there a different file format that keeps the parametric information or tree info along with the file so that a person using bobcad could just open and see the informaion to machine the part?

 

I would hate to have to redesign the part again in bobcad from scratch but i can if i have to. I was thinking there must be a way to do this?

 

 

Thanks in advance for your information.

 

John

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TrippyLighting
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I don't use BobCAD so take this with a grain of salt.

 

However, I've used CAD and a lot of other software for the last 25 years and I am not aware of any format that translates the parametric feature tree ot timeline or what have you from one CAD application into another. Solid Works and others have tried o aleviate this with automatic feature recognition that attems to recreate that but I somewhat doubt that BobnCAD is able to do this and in general there are clear limitations of what can be accomplished with this feature recognition.

 

It may simply be easier for your machinist to learn how to work with the CAM environment in Fusion 360.

 


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Bobcad is not a parametric modeler it's a surface modeler so there's no way you'd get the history into bobcad. If you redraw in bobcad you'll end up with a dumb solid no different to the stp file you've imported. I could never get the hang of drawing anything very complicated in BobCAD so you might want to download a demo and give it a try, it's nothing like AutoCAD\Rhino or Fusion\Solidworks.

 

Also you'll need to use V26 if that's what your machinist has as there's no backward compatability.

 

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Love that suggestion. the machinest if 58 years old and i had to explain how to select the file type from the drop down box to import the step file...
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Hugh Using BOBCAD, i have extracted edges from the utilities menu but is there a way of choosing those items to be measured? I also found un-stitch surface from solid. is there a way to use measure to pull dimensions once i do this or another way?

Again thanks

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thats good information. I am searching the program solidworks as my go to software for this reason. I think it will the be go between software with similar fusion tributes but bobcad functionality.. am i wrong in this thought process?
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TrippyLighting
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Yes. Adding Solid Works into this is not going to do anyting in terms of getting yout models into BobCAD. BobCAD is not going to recognize SolidWorks feature tree either I am afraid.

 

A base license of Solid Works is somewhere around $2500-$3000 and then you'll have to add the annual maintenance fee of $2500.

The first Solid Works version i have worked with was SW 1998. It is a very powerful tool but with a price tag to match. It does NOT have the integrated CAM environment that Fusion 360 has. That costs extra. Go ahea and invesigate what a standalone version of HSM works costs 😉

 

 

 


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zenkustumz wrote:

Hugh Using BOBCAD, i have extracted edges from the utilities menu but is there a way of choosing those items to be measured? I also found un-stitch surface from solid. is there a way to use measure to pull dimensions once i do this or another way?

Again thanks


 

If you created another layer for the curves hide the 3d model and it's easy to measure, I've high lighted the measure icons in this image.

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And going through another program will not help. It sounds like your machinist might not have a lot of experience working with 3d models, it should be no problem working from the stp file in Bobcad.  Like I said in an earlier post you should create a 2d drawing of the part in Fusion and dimension overall sizes, hole sizes and tolerances etc. and save as a PDF.

 

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