Answer day .DXF

[daniel_lyall]

Are .dxf import and export going to be improved.

when importing .dxf from some programs it's a nightmare is this going to be improved.

exporting .dxf one at a time is not good we should be able to pull out lots of dxf from diffrent sketch 

it's the 28th today

[kris_berg]

Hi @daniel_lyall,

Can you provide me some more details?  On your question about DXF import quality, if you could send me (kris.berg@autodesk.com) a DXF file you are having issues with, I will make sure that someone looks into it.  On your question about exporting DXF, do you want to select a set of sketches and have each generate a separate DXF file?  

Thank you,

[daniel_lyall]

@PhilProcarioJr do you wont to wade in on this one as well.

@kris_berg I can post a file here that fusion hates the reason why it does not work to well are known.  

Pully_T5N.dxf fusion hates

T5 pulley test.f3d is the file fixed so it works in fusion.

dxf_test.dxf is a file that is fine it's from rhino.

[daniel_lyall]

@kris_berg at the moment you can only export one .dxf at a time.

say you have 100 parts layed out as of right now you have to do it one at a time if you could select all 100 and put them out as a dxf it would be very good.

and haveing layer would be good to

[kris_berg]

Hi @daniel_lyall,

Thank you for posting your DXF files.  I will have the team look at them.  On your request to further automate the DXF workflow, let me discuss it with the Product managers and get back to you.

[daniel_lyall]

@kris_berg the .dxf thing is something the fusion team should work on.

1) it will in cress the amount of user's.

2) the fusion user who do contract work will be very happy there customers need .dxf files to work with.

3) a lot of laser, water jet and plasma cutting programs work with .dxf.

[PhilProcarioJr]

@kris_berg

I have a couple of customers that have me do work for them on RC Planes that require laser cutout of many profiles....sometimes over a 1000 so the current workflow is very tedious for me.

I also do a lot of stack art on my laser and it's the same situation. I know there are work arounds but they are less then ideal. Plus my customers require a dimensioned .dxf file.

[tomae]

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@PhilProcarioJr wrote:

@kris_berg

Plus my customers require a dimensioned .dxf file.

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This ties into my question in the forum about importing scanned mechanical drawings.  If I have hand-drawn designs scanned and converted to DXF (or DWG) and then brought into Fusion360, I would like the dimensions on the drawing to be brought in and used. Can DXF support those dimensions? If so, I too would like to add my support that this be fixed?/added?...

-Tom

[promm]

@daniel_lyall,

I want to make sure that I am addressing your question based off of the way you are using a dxf down stream.

Import of dxf - Can you explain which program they are being created in and then what you do with them after they are in Fusion 360 (i.e. extrude a profile)

Export multiple dxf's at once.  

•  In any cad program you would first have to make a drawing or some reference to export first.  Are you looking for a batch plot method?
• Are you using the dxf in a way that they are consumed for manufacturing?

Our goal with Fusion 360, is to make design for manufacturing more accessible for users.  To accomplish this goal we are focusing on the workflow where a user is able to leverage their design to determine what is to be cut, nest (right now manually with automated plans in the future) and then go into the CAM environment where you can make the tool paths for WaterJet/Laser/Router.  I understand that the dxf format has been very relied upon and important in the past, however there is no reliance on it for this workflow.

Cheers,

Mike Prom

[daniel_lyall]

@promm This is more for other people.    

Any .dxf file imported or inserted from gearotic has to many points for fusion to handle in the arc's, it's made up from lot's of straight lines, file is posted above. the developer of gearotic is look into if he can do changes to get the .dxf working better in fusion. this is one example.

.dxf have been around for years everyone still has them and use them so importing .dxf into fusion is important some of the ADSK products use .dxf's but fusion blows with some types of .dxf's

I have 1000 of dxf files I would like to use but I can not just import them and use them to make stuff in fusion I have to rebuild them all.

I could just pull other user into this and get them to have their say but they all have said this stuff somewhere this .dxf thing has gone on to long if just importing of .dxf was fixed that's 1/2 of the people who use fusion happy.

if the exporting of dxf was fixed that's a lot of user's happy. 

if you need a .dxf file from fusion you can only get the .dxf from one sketch, if there is 100 imported parts layed out on one plane with the body hidden and only the sketch showing you can not extract 100 .dxf files from the 100 sketches.

the downstream is .dxf from fusion, is cnc machines that use .dxf to control where the cutting is done importing 1 .dxf at a time is a no go so you have to import the .dxf one at a time into another program to get the .dxf laid out then sent to the machine.

If there is planes to have a post that send the need info out for the cnc machines that need .dxf and there is going to be lots of versions of it every machine is a little bit different or someone on hand to help user get this working on single layer .dxf posted for cnc machines that need it, then push it and advertise it so the user know that it is coming.

yes I know there is one that can do it but you have to clean it first in another program fusion can not handle it. I tested it the other day ask al about it.

as of now I use gearotic.dxf and vectric.dxf files in fusion the gearotic ones is me fixing them for other fusion user's, the vectric files I used Vcarve pro for 7 years so I have 1000 of files done in Vcarve pro that I wont to bring into fusion, making the parts in fusion is a no brainer the cam is faster, parametrics all the good stuff with fusion.

[promm]

@daniel_lyall,

Do you have some .dxf files from Gearotic that you can share?  Are you inserting from the model function or uploading to the data panel?  

 

Also have you turned on our CAM water jet/laser/plasma preview?  You can export direct to the machine from here (G-Code) or export a dxf.

 

Regards,

Mike Prom

[daniel_lyall]

@promm

I use insert, you don't upload .dxf to fusion at all, I know you can but it brings them in at the wrong size.

There is nothing you can do to the .dxf from gearotic other than rebuild them, it's made up of sort line segments, I have given the developer of gearotic the info he needs for what fusion needs in a .dxf and what the other option there are for him to explore.

He is going to see if he can get it fixed at his end, but it will take sometime.

A sample file is attached, I can post more different types of drawings that can be done with gearotic and Auggie but they are all made the same sort line segments in the arcs and circles, the lines are lines.

I am going to be doing a vid for the gearotic guys on how to get the .dxf from gearotic working in fusion I will put a link here

[promm]

@daniel_lyall,

Looking at the model, the inner part of the gear (circle) is drawn as line segments.  Every additional segment of the gear effects performance.  You can see in the video that I use paint select to turn this geometry into construction geometry and then redraw circles.  This helps slightly in the time for extrude and the performance is as expected.  With that said I have sent it over to the development team to look into the areas in which we can improve.

http://autode.sk/2egcRMX

Thank you,

Mike Prom

[daniel_lyall]

@promm

yep anything that is rounded is short line segments. i just delete everything but one tooth and the lines and just redraw it,it only takes 5 mins if I am going slow.

The vid for it is just over 6mins but I made a mistake in the vid what I am leveing there to show if you make a mistake fusion will go back.

the vids here 

https://youtu.be/5cl5no4hjyg