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annotate drawings to the ASME standard

annotate drawings to the ASME standard

I would like for the drawing environment to be WAY more robust.  I need to be able to annotate drawings using the ASME or ISO standard.  I've pretty much hit a wall with fusion's current capabilities,  and will have to annotate in a different program.

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yoshimitsuspeed
Advisor

There needs to be more capability in the drawing module. I know it's new and growing but I wanted to make sure it's known that this area is seriously lacking.

Some big things.
Being able to choose page size easily. This is vital.

Being able to modify the drawing template, save templates and prefferably import templates or at least have access to common templates with the ability to then modify them.
It shouldn't be necessaryto hack in material, tolerances and other things for each drawing that should be part of the template.

Not as high a priority but still important would be more detailed automated callouts such as bore diameter and depth, thread callouts, etc and also a GD&T panel or module that made it quick and easy to make a proper drawing.

herzinj
Alumni
Status changed to: 実装予定

The drawing capabilities are a big focus for us moving forward, so it is important for us to hear those features that you find most important.  We will be working aggressively to get these added into the software, so please continue to let us know where you think the most help is needed so that we can prioritize improvements when possible.

TimeraAutodesk
Community Manager

Thanks for the detailed feedback! Drawings is definitely growing and maturing, and you can expect to see it fill out with more complete functionality in the future. In the meantime, keep letting us know what things you need so we can deliver meaningful features. 


Stay tuned...

Timera

TimeraAutodesk
Community Manager
Status changed to: 実装予定
 
maritza.ga
Alumni
Status changed to: 実装予定
 
yoshimitsuspeed
Advisor

A couple big ones I have thought of.

It would be much more convienent to be able to print drawings straight out of fusion.

 

It would also be very nice to be able to snap an image screen shot or directly export the drawing in an image format.

 

jkelindberg
Advocate

A lot of suggestions:

 

* Tolerances on dimensions!!

* Threaded holes show up as simple holes, should have the thread symbol (3/4 circle)

* Weld symbols

* Surface roughness symbols

* Geometric tolerances (run-out, concentricity, cylindricity, position, ...) with datums

* Automatic M notation for threaded holes

yoshimitsuspeed
Advisor

http://forums.autodesk.com/t5/fusion-360-ideastation-request-a/more-advanced-drawing-module/idi-p/52...

For threaded holes

When you are creaitng the thread click the modeled radio button and it will actually create the threads in the part and will show up in drawings and step exports and stuff. Otherwise it just symbolizes a thread in the  model.

jkelindberg
Advocate

Thanks Yosh,

 

So then i would revise my suggestion for improvement to have that option as standard behaviour, I can't really see why you would ever want to have a threaded hole where it is not regarded as one in the draft...

Problem though - if you model the threads (which is useful for 3D printing), and then you project the geometry back (or try to do anything else with the threaded geometry), you get projection of the threads rather than the hole. 

 

There should be a simple / canonical way of separating rough and detailed features (like holes / threading or shapes and fillets / chamfers) such that the underlying geometry is always there and the other stuff is a layer on top of that that can be easily turned on and off.

 

I've had to throw out quite a few designs because I painted myself into a corner with fillets or the threading got screwed up or other things like that. It'd be a bigger re-engineering problem, but it'd solve this and a lot of other things rather than just patching a symptom.

jkelindberg
Advocate

Good point Scott, I didn't even think about 3D-printing, to be honest... I'm used to having threaded holes show up as simple holes in the 3D-model. I guess it would make sense if the behaviour of the F360 would be such that you create a threaded hole (not modelled) and then when you hit "3D Print" option in the menu it will create the threads in the STL file only?

 

Anyway, to revisit the original topic, the attached picture is what I expect from a 2D drawing of a threaded hole (swagged off of the web, hope nobody takes offence)

thread dims.jpg

jkelindberg
Advocate

I would like to be able to...

  • Use custom size of the "paper" (for example to export to PDM systems)
  • Adjust styles (line widths, arrow sizes for dimensions)
  • Sketch annotations in 2D drawing (lines, arrows, circles, ...)
  • Produce a high resolution monocrome TIFF file from a drawing (again, for use with PDM systems)
  • Adjust the quality (number of subdivisions of curves) of the line render
  • Select to hide specified bodies from a view of an assembly (to show what's under a cover for example)
  • Create tables on the drawing (part lists, tabulated instructions, specs, etc...)
TimeraAutodesk
Community Manager
Status changed to: 実装予定

great feedback, keep it coming!

yoshimitsuspeed
Advisor

More drawing functionaltity and GD&T tools are one of the most important things lacking for me right now.

I know more is coming soon but I hope a lot more is coming soon, not just little improvements.

Anonymous
Not applicable

Seconded, thirded, twentithed, and whatever comes after that. 🙂

TrippyLighting
Consultant

Smiley Very Happy

Twenty-seconded.

 

In their current form, drawings remain a novelty. Lots of potential but falling far short of usefulness.

Sandflo
Advocate
Yes this is much needed
TimeraAutodesk
Community Manager
Status changed to: オートデスク審査落選

Thanks for the feedback. To reiterate the other threads concerning drawings, we do have a large team that is dedicated to bring the drawings workspace of Fusion 360 up to par with the community's requests as fast as possible.

 

-Timera

and.ranch
Enthusiast

Adding threads to drawings the way jkelindberg posted on top of this page is absolutely necessary, in order to make professional engineering drawings for manufacturing. Modeled threads in technical drawings will not only clutter and be confusing on the drawing, but also be diverging from at least the ISO-standard.

I don't think i understand the purpose of being able to make cosmetic threads in the 3d-modelling environment, when these cosmetic threads do not show up in the technical drawing environment. 

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