Eagle 32-bit?

[Anonymous]

Hello, is there not a 32-bit version of Eagle available?

Couldn't find it anywhere on your site.

[Anonymous]

Hello, is there not a 32-bit version of Eagle available?

Couldn't find it anywhere on your site.

[rachaelATWH4]

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@infoJM9C9 wrote:

About additional work for 32-bit, I think it's to do it on time.

And, in Visual Studio, I remember it's only a flag to have the compatibility with 32-bit. And it's no problem if the final exe file has more MBs...

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They are using Qt not some Windows specific platforms as it's a cross platform application, but who knows what other frameworks are in use? Are they all available for 32-bit platforms or would they require other changes to supports different library/framework versions for different platforms? We don't know what else is going on inside EAGLE so we can't assume it's as simple as enabling a 32-bit output in a build system, or checking a box in visual studio.

In addition, and this is the other bit you are missing, if they are releasing it on additional platforms then have to put extra effort in testing and supporting it on those platforms. This is an ongoing additional cost even after any initial work to enable 32-bit support in the first place is complete.

Best Regards,

Rachael

[rachaelATWH4]

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@infoJM9C9 wrote:

About additional work for 32-bit, I think it's to do it on time.

And, in Visual Studio, I remember it's only a flag to have the compatibility with 32-bit. And it's no problem if the final exe file has more MBs...

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They are using Qt not some Windows specific platforms as it's a cross platform application, but who knows what other frameworks are in use? Are they all available for 32-bit platforms or would they require other changes to supports different library/framework versions for different platforms? We don't know what else is going on inside EAGLE so we can't assume it's as simple as enabling a 32-bit output in a build system, or checking a box in visual studio.

In addition, and this is the other bit you are missing, if they are releasing it on additional platforms then have to put extra effort in testing and supporting it on those platforms. This is an ongoing additional cost even after any initial work to enable 32-bit support in the first place is complete.

Best Regards,

Rachael

[Anonymous]

About additional test, it's enough to write "32-bit compatibility not fully tested"

[Anonymous]

About additional test, it's enough to write "32-bit compatibility not fully tested"

[rachaelATWH4]

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@infoJM9C9 wrote:

About additional test, it's enough to write "32-bit compatibility not fully tested"

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No it's not. No reputable company is going to push out untested software which they charge a subscription for and say "There you go, but if you have any problems you're on your own". That's not acceptable in any way.

[rachaelATWH4]

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@infoJM9C9 wrote:

About additional test, it's enough to write "32-bit compatibility not fully tested"

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No it's not. No reputable company is going to push out untested software which they charge a subscription for and say "There you go, but if you have any problems you're on your own". That's not acceptable in any way.

[Anonymous]

There are a lot of us out here with I386 machines which run far better as 32bit machines.

[Anonymous]

There are a lot of us out here with I386 machines which run far better as 32bit machines.

[matt.berggren]

Thank you for your post Wymand.  The issue we had with 32-bit support was that the 32-bit user base represented < 5% of the total users and really closer to 1%.  That meant maintaining a pretty significant development effort & CI/CD / release pipeline for what was in fact a very small number of users, most of whom would benefit from a move to 64-bit a operating system and had the CPU to support it. 

That being said, if indeed you're running a i386, then that wouldn't be at all possible as you noted (the 386 was a long way from a 64-bit device, being one of the first of the 32-bit classes of processors targeting desktop computing and replacing the 16-bit processors before it).  In fact, I'd be impressed if you could run anything like a modern GUI / application considering it peaked at ~40MHz and wouldn't be able to support graphics frameworks as we do today. 

Sorry, but this puts you in a pretty rare class of user (a percentage of a percentage) and though I'd LOVE to be able to say "we support anything and everything" this was a choice I had to make and decided the costs were too high.  Sorry about that!  I wish I had better news for you.  

Best regards,

Matt

[matt.berggren]

Thank you for your post Wymand.  The issue we had with 32-bit support was that the 32-bit user base represented < 5% of the total users and really closer to 1%.  That meant maintaining a pretty significant development effort & CI/CD / release pipeline for what was in fact a very small number of users, most of whom would benefit from a move to 64-bit a operating system and had the CPU to support it. 

That being said, if indeed you're running a i386, then that wouldn't be at all possible as you noted (the 386 was a long way from a 64-bit device, being one of the first of the 32-bit classes of processors targeting desktop computing and replacing the 16-bit processors before it).  In fact, I'd be impressed if you could run anything like a modern GUI / application considering it peaked at ~40MHz and wouldn't be able to support graphics frameworks as we do today. 

Sorry, but this puts you in a pretty rare class of user (a percentage of a percentage) and though I'd LOVE to be able to say "we support anything and everything" this was a choice I had to make and decided the costs were too high.  Sorry about that!  I wish I had better news for you.  

Best regards,

Matt

[Anonymous]

Thank you, this made it easier to chose Eagle 🙂

[Anonymous]

Thank you, this made it easier to chose Eagle 🙂

[Anonymous]

I am in a similar situation: I downloaded the free version of 7.7.0 but was running into difficulties trying to work around the limited design area. My employer decided to pay for the subscription and recommended I get the latest and greatest (v8.6.0), but when I went to install it, I was reminded of the fact that my PC is a 32-bit machine, and the reason I had to get the 32-bit version of 7.7.0 in the first place.

I guess my question now would be, is there a way to activate this subscription in 7.7.0 and remove the limitations of the free version?

Thanks!

[Anonymous]

I am in a similar situation: I downloaded the free version of 7.7.0 but was running into difficulties trying to work around the limited design area. My employer decided to pay for the subscription and recommended I get the latest and greatest (v8.6.0), but when I went to install it, I was reminded of the fact that my PC is a 32-bit machine, and the reason I had to get the 32-bit version of 7.7.0 in the first place.

I guess my question now would be, is there a way to activate this subscription in 7.7.0 and remove the limitations of the free version?

Thanks!

[Anonymous]

Nope, sorry, you're screwed.
You can't buy a license for v7.7.0 anymore and Autodesk won't make a 32 bit version as the majority of the downloaders (one would think these are first time users?) downloaded the 64bit version of their new Eagle versions - after they stopped making a 32bit version they of course now have 100% downloading the 64bit version...   😉

So there's no legal way for you to get the full version of the last 32 bit version, I guess it might be possible to buy someone else's license, don't know how the license document is formulated about license transfers. 

Usual reply from the Autodesk people is to get a new and modern computer with a new and modern OS, no matter what scripts, optimizations or adaptations you have made to your system, how well it works or how good you are at handling it. Out with the old, in with the new - I'm sure it's also environmental friendly to think this way...  

I'm running 7.7.0 myself on Windows XP, 12 year old computer, still going strong. 

[Anonymous]

Nope, sorry, you're screwed.
You can't buy a license for v7.7.0 anymore and Autodesk won't make a 32 bit version as the majority of the downloaders (one would think these are first time users?) downloaded the 64bit version of their new Eagle versions - after they stopped making a 32bit version they of course now have 100% downloading the 64bit version...   😉

So there's no legal way for you to get the full version of the last 32 bit version, I guess it might be possible to buy someone else's license, don't know how the license document is formulated about license transfers. 

Usual reply from the Autodesk people is to get a new and modern computer with a new and modern OS, no matter what scripts, optimizations or adaptations you have made to your system, how well it works or how good you are at handling it. Out with the old, in with the new - I'm sure it's also environmental friendly to think this way...  

I'm running 7.7.0 myself on Windows XP, 12 year old computer, still going strong. 

[Anonymous]

Since the new EagleCAD is not available for 32 bit machines, is there a way I can access the features I'm paying for having in having the new eagle. What I mean to say is, I have 2 computers, one is 64 bit, the other 32 bit. I have paid for the Autodesk version of Eagle and use it on the 64 bit machine, however the Eagle 7.7 I have on the 32 bit machine is limited in board size, number of sheets, etc. Can those features be accessed on the 7.7 version?

Thanks

Andy

[Anonymous]

Since the new EagleCAD is not available for 32 bit machines, is there a way I can access the features I'm paying for having in having the new eagle. What I mean to say is, I have 2 computers, one is 64 bit, the other 32 bit. I have paid for the Autodesk version of Eagle and use it on the 64 bit machine, however the Eagle 7.7 I have on the 32 bit machine is limited in board size, number of sheets, etc. Can those features be accessed on the 7.7 version?

Thanks

Andy

[jorge_garcia]

Hello Andy,

Thank you for your question, unfortunately, this isn't possible. The subscription entitlement affords you access to the V8 series of EAGLE, it doesn't do anything for the older versions.

Please let me know if there's anything else I can do for you.

Best Regards,

[jorge_garcia]

Hello Andy,

Thank you for your question, unfortunately, this isn't possible. The subscription entitlement affords you access to the V8 series of EAGLE, it doesn't do anything for the older versions.

Please let me know if there's anything else I can do for you.

Best Regards,

[Anonymous]

I have six 32 bit computers. I was hoping to use one of these to train myself on Eagle. I guess I have to go to alternative programs.  Can any one tell me where there is an unsupported 32 bit version of Eagle?

Thanks, Ernie

[Anonymous]

I have six 32 bit computers. I was hoping to use one of these to train myself on Eagle. I guess I have to go to alternative programs.  Can any one tell me where there is an unsupported 32 bit version of Eagle?

Thanks, Ernie

[Anonymous]

ftp://ftp.cadsoft.de/eagle/program

[Anonymous]

ftp://ftp.cadsoft.de/eagle/program

[Anonymous]

Thank you very much.

[Anonymous]

Thank you very much.

[Anonymous]

We could just all download 32bit 7.7.0 every day about ten times each or so, perhaps they'll start releasing a 32bit version again - since the downloads are the only thing that counts - not how much it's used. 
Let's say a 32bit user spend 30 hours in front of their program a week, and have been running it for the last 10 years, perhaps on the same computer even. Then we have 10 users with a new computer trying it out for 20 minutes, doesn't like it and go on with their life - for some reason those 10 one time users are more valuable to Autodesk than a long time user that actually like the program and plans to stay with it but just happen not to scrap and buy new computers every second year or so.

Only downloads count.  😉

After watching Netflix today, CAD:ing in Solidworks yesterday, checking my mail, Facebook, CAD:ing in EagleCAD 7.6.0 for five hours, editing video even... etc etc - I wondered do I really need a new computer or is it just forced upon me?

[Anonymous]

We could just all download 32bit 7.7.0 every day about ten times each or so, perhaps they'll start releasing a 32bit version again - since the downloads are the only thing that counts - not how much it's used. 
Let's say a 32bit user spend 30 hours in front of their program a week, and have been running it for the last 10 years, perhaps on the same computer even. Then we have 10 users with a new computer trying it out for 20 minutes, doesn't like it and go on with their life - for some reason those 10 one time users are more valuable to Autodesk than a long time user that actually like the program and plans to stay with it but just happen not to scrap and buy new computers every second year or so.

Only downloads count.  😉

After watching Netflix today, CAD:ing in Solidworks yesterday, checking my mail, Facebook, CAD:ing in EagleCAD 7.6.0 for five hours, editing video even... etc etc - I wondered do I really need a new computer or is it just forced upon me?

[Anonymous]

Is 32-Bit available now?

[Anonymous]

Is 32-Bit available now?

[jorge_garcia]

Hi @Anonymous,

I hope you're doing well. Unfortunately, no we don't have a 32-bit release of EAGLE available.

Best Regards,

[jorge_garcia]

Hi @Anonymous,

I hope you're doing well. Unfortunately, no we don't have a 32-bit release of EAGLE available.

Best Regards,

[Anonymous]

please provide us with the 32 bit version as it would be a very nice gesture

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@jorge_garcia wrote:
Hi Oliver,

I hope you're doing well. The overwhelming majority ( I don't remember the exact number but something on the order of 95%+ across Windows, Linux, and Mac) of our downloads were for 64-bit machines so it was decided that it made sense to only support 64-bit.

With that said if it becomes a problem we will reconsider this.

Best Regards,

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[Anonymous]

please provide us with the 32 bit version as it would be a very nice gesture

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@jorge_garcia wrote:
Hi Oliver,

I hope you're doing well. The overwhelming majority ( I don't remember the exact number but something on the order of 95%+ across Windows, Linux, and Mac) of our downloads were for 64-bit machines so it was decided that it made sense to only support 64-bit.

With that said if it becomes a problem we will reconsider this.

Best Regards,

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[patryk_krol]

Count me in for 32-bit version.
I'm a teacher, and I'm using old laptops for lessons and some of them are 32-bit Kubuntus.
In general there is not much problem with using v7.7.0, but I'm also using some of my libs created and modified in v9. I can live with different gui...

Best regards!

[patryk_krol]

Count me in for 32-bit version.
I'm a teacher, and I'm using old laptops for lessons and some of them are 32-bit Kubuntus.
In general there is not much problem with using v7.7.0, but I'm also using some of my libs created and modified in v9. I can live with different gui...

Best regards!