Vehicle Tracking: truck and dog?

[autoMick]

Hi,

As one of those random things that pops up from time to time, I need to consider the ability to maneuver trucks at a number of potential earthwork sites. I downloaded the Vehicle Tracking extension (trial) and have it working with my IDSP 2018 installation.

Specifically I want to look at a 'typical' truck and dog trailer combo - see pic attached. I thought this would be pretty common vehicle but couldn't find a good match in the vehicle library. I did find this:

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/vehicle-tracking/troubleshooting/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticl... indicates that the question has probably been asked before.

I'm sure it's not as confusing as it seems at first glace, but as I'm not really looking to invest a heap of time in this I was hoping that either someone has done exactly what I'm after and would be willing to post the vehicle or maybe a quick screencast to modify a vehicle?

Thanks

Mick

[autoMick]

Hi,

As one of those random things that pops up from time to time, I need to consider the ability to maneuver trucks at a number of potential earthwork sites. I downloaded the Vehicle Tracking extension (trial) and have it working with my IDSP 2018 installation.

Specifically I want to look at a 'typical' truck and dog trailer combo - see pic attached. I thought this would be pretty common vehicle but couldn't find a good match in the vehicle library. I did find this:

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/vehicle-tracking/troubleshooting/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticl... indicates that the question has probably been asked before.

I'm sure it's not as confusing as it seems at first glace, but as I'm not really looking to invest a heap of time in this I was hoping that either someone has done exactly what I'm after and would be willing to post the vehicle or maybe a quick screencast to modify a vehicle?

Thanks

Mick

[Neilw_05]

Personally I've never heard of a "dog trailer" designed exclusively for dogs. Thus I doubt you'll find a pre-configured "dog" trailer. I could be wrong. I think you'll need to create a custom trailer. Pick one of the existing trailers and add it to your vehicle, then tweak the parameters after. 

[Neilw_05]

Personally I've never heard of a "dog trailer" designed exclusively for dogs. Thus I doubt you'll find a pre-configured "dog" trailer. I could be wrong. I think you'll need to create a custom trailer. Pick one of the existing trailers and add it to your vehicle, then tweak the parameters after. 

[autoMick]

Thanks Neil, Maybe it's just an Aussie term. I think the pic shows what I'm talking about: Rigid body dump truck with a trailer on a long drawbar (the trailer is jack-knifed to allow the rigid truck to dump its load). I'm not sure how to add a trailer from one vehicle, onto another. I understand the idea is to edit a copy of the vehicle as part of the drawing pool, but I'm having trouble mixing and matching.

Cheers

Mick

[autoMick]

Thanks Neil, Maybe it's just an Aussie term. I think the pic shows what I'm talking about: Rigid body dump truck with a trailer on a long drawbar (the trailer is jack-knifed to allow the rigid truck to dump its load). I'm not sure how to add a trailer from one vehicle, onto another. I understand the idea is to edit a copy of the vehicle as part of the drawing pool, but I'm having trouble mixing and matching.

Cheers

Mick

[Neilw_05 · Accepted solution]

That is so funny! The image you posted didn't show for me so I couldn't see what you were talking about. I visualized a dog kennel on wheels!

Anyway I'm new to AVT but I've learned how to link 2 vehicles using drag and drop. Basically you place the lead vehicle in your pool and then drag the towed vehicle onto it. The software links the 2 for you. I added a small SUV to a Big Rig RV for example. In my case I had to manually toggle on one of the settings to make the RV a tow vehicle. After that they linked. I also had to tweak the length of the tow bar afterwards. 

[Neilw_05 · Accepted solution]

That is so funny! The image you posted didn't show for me so I couldn't see what you were talking about. I visualized a dog kennel on wheels!

Anyway I'm new to AVT but I've learned how to link 2 vehicles using drag and drop. Basically you place the lead vehicle in your pool and then drag the towed vehicle onto it. The software links the 2 for you. I added a small SUV to a Big Rig RV for example. In my case I had to manually toggle on one of the settings to make the RV a tow vehicle. After that they linked. I also had to tweak the length of the tow bar afterwards. 

[autoMick]

Hah! Or maybe one of those little pet wash trailers. I can imagine dragging that around the construction site seeing if anyone had a lapdog that needed grooming.

Seriously, thanks for the tip, I'll experiment more.

Cheers

Mick

[autoMick]

Hah! Or maybe one of those little pet wash trailers. I can imagine dragging that around the construction site seeing if anyone had a lapdog that needed grooming.

Seriously, thanks for the tip, I'll experiment more.

Cheers

Mick

[Jowennl · Accepted solution]

Hi Mick,

Please see attached _Aussie-Additional-Vehicle.Zip. You need to unzip and copy the _Aussie-Additional-Vehicle.ATL to C:\Users\<<YourUser>>\Documents\My Vehicle Tracking Data\Library

Please use this as a guide only. Check and amend them to suit your T&D specification like radius as I believe 12.5m radius is the common one. For more info about AVT library please visit this <Link> 

For how to load them and edit please see attached animated gif.

Esc to Pause / F5 or refresh to playTruck and dog (similar to this)

Cheers,

Jowenn

[Jowennl · Accepted solution]

Hi Mick,

Please see attached _Aussie-Additional-Vehicle.Zip. You need to unzip and copy the _Aussie-Additional-Vehicle.ATL to C:\Users\<<YourUser>>\Documents\My Vehicle Tracking Data\Library

Please use this as a guide only. Check and amend them to suit your T&D specification like radius as I believe 12.5m radius is the common one. For more info about AVT library please visit this <Link> 

For how to load them and edit please see attached animated gif.

Esc to Pause / F5 or refresh to playTruck and dog (similar to this)

Cheers,

Jowenn

[jeff_rivers]

Interesting term.  Where I work (Continental US, pacific northwest) the trailer is called a pup-trailer, so the whole thing (truck + trailer) is a dump truck with pup trailer, or just dump w/ pup.

The drawbar is adjustable, for reasons I am not 100% sure of (I called a couple manufacturers to get exact measurements to program my own custom vehicle, and they replied that it has to do with roadway & bridge load ratings - for heavier loads the driver extends the drawbar to spread the axle loading out more).  So if you build a custom vehicle for vehicle tracking, consider making two: One w/ drawbar fully retracted, one w/ drawbar fully extended. 

Or just assume worst case, and model it w/ drawbar fully extended. 

[jeff_rivers]

Interesting term.  Where I work (Continental US, pacific northwest) the trailer is called a pup-trailer, so the whole thing (truck + trailer) is a dump truck with pup trailer, or just dump w/ pup.

The drawbar is adjustable, for reasons I am not 100% sure of (I called a couple manufacturers to get exact measurements to program my own custom vehicle, and they replied that it has to do with roadway & bridge load ratings - for heavier loads the driver extends the drawbar to spread the axle loading out more).  So if you build a custom vehicle for vehicle tracking, consider making two: One w/ drawbar fully retracted, one w/ drawbar fully extended. 

Or just assume worst case, and model it w/ drawbar fully extended. 

[autoMick]

@jeff_rivers maybe our dogs are bigger than your pups? Good point regarding the drawbar length. Thanks

@Jowennl thanks heaps for putting that together - I was able to load and use that. I'm slowly getting the hang of the editing side now. I think it's now it's mainly a matter of getting the right specs.

BTW - interesting trying to reverse these in ATV. Not sure if there's other settings that need to be adjusted here.

Cheers

Mick

[autoMick]

@jeff_rivers maybe our dogs are bigger than your pups? Good point regarding the drawbar length. Thanks

@Jowennl thanks heaps for putting that together - I was able to load and use that. I'm slowly getting the hang of the editing side now. I think it's now it's mainly a matter of getting the right specs.

BTW - interesting trying to reverse these in ATV. Not sure if there's other settings that need to be adjusted here.

Cheers

Mick

[johnbarrus]

That's interesting.  I've heard it referred to as a pup trailer.

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@autoMick wrote:

Thanks Neil, Maybe it's just an Aussie term.

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[johnbarrus]

That's interesting.  I've heard it referred to as a pup trailer.

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@autoMick wrote:

Thanks Neil, Maybe it's just an Aussie term.

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[autoMick]

and a trailer with four axles is a 'quad dog'

[autoMick]

and a trailer with four axles is a 'quad dog'

[Anonymous]

Thank you so much for your help!!! Legend! 

[Anonymous]

Thank you so much for your help!!! Legend! 

[charlieBRS]

You've gone to some effort here, thank you mate, really appreciate it

Regards

Charlie

[charlieBRS]

You've gone to some effort here, thank you mate, really appreciate it

Regards

Charlie