Object(s) added to DB too late during save.

Object(s) added to DB too late during save.

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Object(s) added to DB too late during save.

AllenJessup
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I have a drawing containing a couple of Surfaces. I keep getting the "Warning: An error occurred during save. We recommend you run RECOVER on the drawing" error during a save. I wanted to copy paste to a new drawing to get rid of that. When I try to Select > All and the do a clipboard Copy. I get the following error.

 

Object(s) added to DB too late during save. Handles 12D2 to 12D2
12D2: type AeccDbRootSettingsNode, owner 7E (AeccDbTreeNode)

 

I've tried Audit and Recover. No errors detected. I've purged the drawing using DWG-PURGE, which will purge reggapps and DGN data. I Wblocked the drawing and inserted it into an new drawing from our template. I still get the error when trying to copy to the clipboard.

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J.FOCHT
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Hello @AllenJessup!

 

This is certainly an interesting situation. The only reference close to the problem you are having is when this same error occurs while working on a user made intersection assembly. This is the only AKN article i could find. Seems like it is a known issue. They suggested the same things that you have already tried. The other suggestion is to make sure all the layers are thawed and try the copy at that point.

 

Im sure that this doesnt help any but i feel your pain.


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AllenJessup
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Hi @J.FOCHT

 

Thanks for the reply. I did do a WBlock and insert to new dwg from template. That solved the RECOVER error. I did have all the layers thawed and on the first time. The drawing does have 1 DRef. But that doesn't seem to have any issues with it. Still get the error.

 

I tried dusting off some of my Lisp skills. I can't seem to select the entity whose handle is referenced. Probably because it's corrupted.

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J.FOCHT
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@AllenJessup,

 

Are you running LISP actions in this file? Could it possibly be a problem in the save or selection part of one of your LISP routines? If possible you could enable logging in your code and see if it can find any issues. Again, I'm just spit-balling here.


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AllenJessup
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I do run Lisps and 3rd parties. But nothing has changed and it only happened in the one drawing.

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cwr-pae
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Are you trying to copy both surfaces at the same time? Have you tried coping each separately? If the surfaces are defined by objects in the same file, can you copy & paste the defining objects and recreate the surfaces in a new file?

 

Occasionally I have noticed ctrl+c and the copy commands from menus/ribbons performing differently (one way fails or triggers a crash, another does not).

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AllenJessup
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Yes. I was trying to copy everything in the drawing at once. Since I got past that by doing a WBlock. I haven't gone any further with diagnosing it.

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AllenJessup
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This is getting annoying.

 

Command: _copybase
Specify base point: 41 found
Object(s) added to DB too late during save. Handles 37F to 37F
37F: type AeccDbRootSettingsNode, owner A4 (AeccDbTreeNode)

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Anonymous
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Same problem, is their any Fix?

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ANLD
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Try reloading any exernal reference and then try to save again, works every time for me.

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Anonymous
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Thanks for the reply,

In my case it was a pipe network label style import from an older drawing.

Save a copy of your drawing and use SELECTSIMILAR on a single label to delete them out. On the manger tab, go to styles and purge unused style. Then try run EXPORTTOAUTOCAD. Kept try different labels until it works and you have found your Corrupted style.  Go back to main drawing and purge out that style. 

 

 

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CADmgrMike
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I've ran into this problem twice in the last week. Both of the drawings have been opened in C3D but they are strictly 2D detail base drawings. I even w-blocked everything out to a new drawing and the message pops back up when I try to save.

Mike Porter
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Anonymous
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Hi! Somebody have a solution? I have found this problem for Civil3d 2018, 2019, 2020. Solution from Autodesk is to upgrade to 2019.2, but the problem is still here... 😞

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AllenJessup
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I'd suggest you start a Support Request with Autodesk.

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gbondoc
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Have you tried deleting the entity by it's handle? Put it's handle id in the quotes.

 

command: (entdel (handent ""))

 

 

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@AllenJessup,

 

I have seen another post related to similar issue in forum and also on another platform as well, And successfully they come with some solution. you can refer the same i am not sure its gonna help you.

There is another article on Autodesk Troubleshooting and also i have combined some information and wrote something here. 

Hope fully this may be fix the issue and save you time and effort.

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Neil.Aryan
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Hi Allenjessup,

 

How about X-Ref Method?

I had same error with different issue on civil 3d drawing the X-Ref Method resolved the same.

I would suggest you to X-Ref the civil 3d model into your standard template and then Bind and Explode so you can see the civil 3d abjects and other civil 3d elements.

I hope this works and resolve the issue.

I tried for my case and it's worked for me.

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CADmgrMike
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I've had this happen on a couple of drawings with no C3D content.

The interesting fix was to rotate the drawing view and then rotate back to World.

Drawing would then save without errors.

Don't ask me why. 🙂

Mike Porter
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AllenJessup
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@Neil.Aryan 

I haven't had this happen for a while. I believe I used a method similar to WBlock and insert. It might have been copy/paste. I haven't seen this at all since moving to 2020.

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AllenJessup
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@Neil.Aryan wrote:

How about X-Ref Method?

 


This seems similar to the WBlock method. It should work as well.

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