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Is it possible to create 2 points with the same number in civil 3D?

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Mahmoud-elsayed145
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Is it possible to create 2 points with the same number in civil 3D?

Mahmoud-elsayed145
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Is it possible to create 2 points with the same number in civil 3D?

just like parcels & sites.

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Is it possible to create 2 points with the same number in civil 3D?

Is it possible to create 2 points with the same number in civil 3D?

just like parcels & sites.

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TerryDotson
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The software will NOT allow two or more points with the same number.  Also, it will not allow you to use the same point NAME.  Consider adding the secondary point with a large number added to it, like 1 and 1001, etc.

The software will NOT allow two or more points with the same number.  Also, it will not allow you to use the same point NAME.  Consider adding the secondary point with a large number added to it, like 1 and 1001, etc.

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KirkWM
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Yeah you can't have points with the same point number, but for labeling purposes there are ways around this. You can use all sorts of methods like property sets, UDP, new object data fields, even point expressions could be of some use. What are hoping to do? 

Yeah you can't have points with the same point number, but for labeling purposes there are ways around this. You can use all sorts of methods like property sets, UDP, new object data fields, even point expressions could be of some use. What are hoping to do? 

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Mahmoud-elsayed145
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Mahmoud-elsayed145
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Its all about labeling, I’m just want to use multiple of point groups with label of a letter followed by a number, and I use point number as the number part and I want to use numbering 1, 2, 3, 4 etc, in each group. Could you show me a method or a replacement for point number in numbering part? 

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Its all about labeling, I’m just want to use multiple of point groups with label of a letter followed by a number, and I use point number as the number part and I want to use numbering 1, 2, 3, 4 etc, in each group. Could you show me a method or a replacement for point number in numbering part? 

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KirkWM
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So same letter for all points in same point group, got it. Can it be any letter or do you need a specific letter? If you need a specific letter, are you using the point group description currently for anything? If not I could make a script that uses that as the input for the letter you want. 

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So same letter for all points in same point group, got it. Can it be any letter or do you need a specific letter? If you need a specific letter, are you using the point group description currently for anything? If not I could make a script that uses that as the input for the letter you want. 

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Jeew-m
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I think you can use THIS to come out with a solution.



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I think you can use THIS to come out with a solution.



Jeewana Meegahage
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KirkWM
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Here is the Dynamo way but this could be done manually as well but depends on the number of points you are working with. I used Dynamo to create a UDP then got the description of the point group to be the letter you want to prefix the point number. Then for each point group a number range, starting at 1, is made for each group then combined with the letter and then updates UDP for the selected points.  You can then create a point label style and include the UDP property "Grouped Point Number" in it. You only need to create the UDP definition once and then you can "freeze" it (the one that's greyed out). The script only updates UDP if the point group description has been set. The script also uses the Civil3DToolkit package in addition to the out of the box Dynamo for C3D. Hope this helps!

 

If you want to learn more about Dynamo for Civil 3D come join the forum here: https://forum.dynamobim.com/invites/UCUDqZKabL

 

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Point UDP Point Group Desc v0_2021-11-01_04-45-58.png

 

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Here is the Dynamo way but this could be done manually as well but depends on the number of points you are working with. I used Dynamo to create a UDP then got the description of the point group to be the letter you want to prefix the point number. Then for each point group a number range, starting at 1, is made for each group then combined with the letter and then updates UDP for the selected points.  You can then create a point label style and include the UDP property "Grouped Point Number" in it. You only need to create the UDP definition once and then you can "freeze" it (the one that's greyed out). The script only updates UDP if the point group description has been set. The script also uses the Civil3DToolkit package in addition to the out of the box Dynamo for C3D. Hope this helps!

 

If you want to learn more about Dynamo for Civil 3D come join the forum here: https://forum.dynamobim.com/invites/UCUDqZKabL

 

UDP Created.jpg

 

Group Desc.jpg

 

Point UDP Point Group Desc v0_2021-11-01_04-45-58.png

 

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Joe-Bouza
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If I may ask, why would that be done? sounds confusing to me

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If I may ask, why would that be done? sounds confusing to me

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KirkWM
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I had a manager once that wanted, for each layout sheet, to have points restart back at 1 but I think I convinced him not to do that but others might not be as lucky.

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I had a manager once that wanted, for each layout sheet, to have points restart back at 1 but I think I convinced him not to do that but others might not be as lucky.

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