Editing features relating to Grading Objects 2023 - worst ever

[neilyj666]

Editing featurelines (adding vertices/curves) that are used in live grading objects in 2023 is proving to be the worst yet in my experience - 5 crashes this morning.

I have resorted to deleting the grading/site/surface and recreating the featurelines from basic polylines and redoing the gradings/surfaces as it is faster than putting up with the constant crashes.

I wish Autodesk would invest some time and effort into sorting out the gradings - I have never failed to have a crash when using gradings since I started using Civil in the 2011 release which is a sorry state of affairs as this is a bread and butter operation that is fundamental to earthworks.

[claimed4all]

You should abandon grading objects, just as Autodesk has.  

We have moved to doing all of our grading via assemblies ran along feature lines.  I worked on a pretty intricate surface all day yesterday (site development, parking lot, working around wetlands) and I had zero crashes.  I am running C3D 2022.

Grading Objects, I can probably get the software to crash a few times an hour, then sooner or later the file will corrupt enough to lose all the grading objects.

[neilyj666]

Yes indeed....I don't think the Grading Optimisation tool is appropriate for what I am trying to do.

I would use corridors for simple situations but this particular windfarm project has lot of internal corners so I'd be sorting out bowties forever.  I too have experienced zero crashes when using corridor modelling.

[Joe-Bouza]

I use and assembly with only a MP on it for the intricate linear field grading to incorporate into the whole corridor grading

[rl_jackson]

I think that things are trying to move along the line where GO as well as grading objects (even with their falsies) in general will come into harmony with what we as a community do for a living. Will we live to see it is questionable? The tools have goals and limits sometimes we push a tool beyond the current limit.... Patients is a virtue. (20yrs. later)

[Neilw_05]

Not only bowties. Assemblies, regions, targets, baselines, dead ends, junctions, transitions, troubleshooting and more. So many headaches with corridors! In the end you have to use a hybrid of gradings and breaklines to deal with all the nooks and crannies that corridors don't handle well. That usually results in having to edit the TIN's to cleanup triangulation due to boundaries not working. Any time you edit a TIN you are stuck with having to repeat whenever the design changes. I have yet to find a good solution with corridors.

Ultimately I find it easier to deal with fixing corrupt gratings as the lesser of the 2 evils. Either way I am not happy with this software.

[neilyj666]

Editing the TIN derived from the corridor and especially deriving the boundary can be very painful as you have said but on balance I do prefer editing corridors.

I've said before on many occasions that I wish Autodesk would just fix/improve what is already in the software rather than introducing new bugs with every release and park the Cloud stuff to concentrate on fixes/efficiencies (I realise it'll probably be a different team but you get my point) 

[Neilw_05]

I think we all know by now they can't fix gradings. All they can do is focus on other things.

[neilyj666]

Probably some truth in this...😒