Hatch pattens, when rotated go from pattern to solid (only some of them)

[CherylKrismer2316]

Using LT 2024, a couple months ago I imported some custom hatch patterns, and they custom patterns plus some standard patterns (not all of them) won't rotate and keep the pattern.  They go from pattern to solid when rotated.  This is happening specifically with GOST_WOOD

If I go into .....AutocadLT2024/R30/enu/Support all I see is a file called infocentre.xml.  I have all hidden files turned on in control panel.

I am trying to figure out how to reload the standard hatch patterns, without resetting everything.

If I log on as another user, can I save the hatch patterns as a file and then reload them in the location noted above?

Any other ideas?

[paullimapa]

Hatch patterns definitions are typically stored in a file that has an extension of .pat

Now it’s possible that they’re all in acadlt.pat. Since this is a text file, you can open it up with notepad and do a search for the name of the hatch patterns. 

[CherylKrismer2316]

The file name for GOST_WOOD is in the acadtlt.pat file, but it doesn't explain why this pattern looses it's integrity when rotated and goes solid instead of pattern?

[cadffm]

Hi,

only ONE file in this folder?

"all I see is a file"

[paullimapa]

Perhaps you can share your acadlt.pat file here for others to try. Also provide names of all the added custom patterns that exhibit this behavior 

[cadffm]

One idea

You are talking about to rotate the Hatch object, not just to change the rotation of the pattern?

If so

rotate your object and change hatch ORIGIN to near to the hatch object. 

For example, change hatch origin to the edge or center of the hatch.

Does it work again?

If not: change hatch scalefactor 2x 

or 0.5x of the current value.

does it work now?

[CherylKrismer2316]

The file acadtlt.pat has all the standard hatch patterns in it, but not my custom patterns. I can see all my custom and standard hatch patterns in CAD when I am working. If I hatch an object with GOST_WOOD at 0.00° it looks fine. As soon as I rotate it 90° it goes to a solid colour and I can't fix it.

[CherylKrismer2316]

sorry, yes to clarify in 'hatch edit' I change the orientation by 90°, I don't rotate the hatch object.  Changing the scale doesn't change the density or affect how the hatch looks, it's definitely solid even though it started as a pattern

[CherylKrismer2316]

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;; Note: Dummy pattern description used for 'Solid fill'.
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;; the file to ensure that they migrate properly when
;; upgrading to a future AutoCAD version. If duplicate hatch
;; patterns are found in this file, items in the User Defined
;; Hatch Patterns section take precedence over patterns that
;; appear earlier in the file.
;;

[pendean]

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@CherylKrismer2316 wrote:

The file name for GOST_WOOD is in the acadtlt.pat file, but it doesn't explain why this pattern looses it's integrity when rotated and goes solid instead of pattern?

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Show us: share your problematic hatches in that DWG file, and point to them.

Sometimes what you see is not a 'solid' hatch, just a loss of scale: LIST or PROPERTIES command to confirm.

If they are SOLID hatch pattern name, then someone somewhere changed them, AutoCAD holds on to patterns already in the file no matter who opens them.

[paullimapa]

In your reply to me you stated

“The file name for GOST_WOOD is in the acadtlt.pat file,”

But then your reply to @cadffm you stated something else 

“The file acadtlt.pat has all the standard hatch patterns in it, but not my custom patterns”

So which is it?

[CherylKrismer2316 · Accepted solution]

I opened two new files, the standard template from LT2024 and our own internal template. I tried to recreate the issue in both those files and the GOST_WOOD works just fine in both orientations, at all scales. I rebooted and opened the file I was working in and now the problem no longer happens. This is really frustrating because it's not the first time I have had this issue in the past few months, but I think resolution will have to wait until I can recreate it and walk it through here again. It wasn't a scale issue.

[CherylKrismer2316]

GOST_WOOD is a preinstalled Autocad hatch pattern, it is not a custom hatch pattern that I imported.

[pendean]

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@CherylKrismer2316 wrote:
...I rebooted and opened the file I was working in and now the problem no longer happens....

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often that should be the first thing you try when the program starts acting weird for no reason.

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@CherylKrismer2316 wrote:
...will have to wait until I can recreate it and walk it through here again. It wasn't a scale issue.

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Not likely to occur again unless you store your PAT files somewhere LT2024 losses access because it went offline.

You are running this updated version, yes?