Poor performance with networking, then super snappy if networking disabled.

[dennis]

Greetings all- 

I am using ACAD2016. As of the last couple of weeks, I have been having issues with File menu pulldown. 

If I click on the File menu label it highlights the field,  then hangs, and then nothing. 

Acting on a hunch, thinking its looking for network info or even 'phoning home', I just unplugged the ethernet cable, then AutoCad became more responsive.  The menu cascaded like nothing was the matter. 

This makes no sense to me.  Perhaps my tinfoil hat is on too tight? 

What could be causing this?

sinneD

[paullimapa]

Talk to the IT staff who setup your network and I'm sure they could assist with this.

You can also try and reduce your # of Recent Documents list in case some of the drawings you've opened recently is on a network location which your computer no longer has access to:

https://help.autodesk.com/view/ACD/2016/ENU/?guid=GUID-BEF61A03-D4CB-425E-9983-394037597377

[dennis]

Thanks for the suggestions, but I am the IT staff. The local network has nothing to do with it. Its about as simple as it can be (Workstation ->Router -> Modem -> Internet).

All the files that are being accessed are local, living on a drive on the same workstation. 

Something is going on with either Acad or Windows networking. I have not been able to figure it out yet.

[paullimapa]

Well, it doesn't sound like it has to do with AutoCAD 2016 since there's been no updates & quite frankly out of Autodesk support. But it could be a recent Windows 10 update since everything was fine a couple of weeks ago. You could try rolling back the update if any back to 2 weeks ago.  Have you tried shutting down the router and or modem? 

[Valentin_CAD]

@dennis ,

Apply the suggestions in these links:

• Slow or poor performance in AutoCAD Products (autodesk.com)

• Lag or poor performance when working on networked files in AutoCAD products (autodesk.com)

[pendean]

... OR that AutoCAD user opened or did a SAVEAS of a DWG file to a network resource that is now offline, or that removed/offline resource is still pathed in AutocAD's search pattern or you are running on VPN and there are issues there, or ONEDIVE is offline? So many reason.

Is this a sudden new problem? Or a new PC? Or a new software install of an oldie like 2016? Or a new user login? What's the background story here to a system that is 7-ish years old now.

Dig deeper than you have hinted at so far when you get a chance:

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-architecture-forum/slow-performance-when-connected-to-network...

https://www.autodesk.com/support/technical/article/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/Slowness-while-sav...

https://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?128503-Network-causing-AutoCAD-performance-issues/page2

https://www.reddit.com/r/AutoCAD/comments/d8x54j/network_files_are_slow/

https://www.scan2cad.com/blog/cad/autocad-slow-performance/#:~:text=100%2C000%20data%20points-,Netwo...

https://www.cadtutor.net/forum/topic/62701-autocad-slow-could-it-be-caused-by-network-speed/

[dennis]

Thanks all for the links to self help. I will go through them. I am NOT convinced that its a networking issue. To be clear, my files are stored LOCALLY, not on a network.   Why is everyone thinking that network file access is the culprit. It may lie in the networking subsystem, but it should not be local file access.

I don't accept that there is no 'developemnt' to ACAD that is 7 years old- last month Acad2016 'phoned home' and due to a corrupt license file, blocked me saying that I had exceeded the number of permitted installations. Which is bogus as its been solely on this one machine since 2015.   It took 3 rounds with tech support to clear it. 

It would be nice if they published a patch for all versions to deal with all the dead chaff that still exists like Acad360 and the dead design ceter stuff. And an offline help that actuall works. 

[pendean]

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@dennis wrote:

...Why is everyone thinking that network file access is the culprit....

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Because you wrote "...I just unplugged the ethernet cable..." as the fix.

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@dennis wrote:

...I don't accept that there is no 'developemnt' to ACAD that is 7 years old...

...blocked me saying that I had exceeded the number of permitted installations. Which is bogus as its been solely on this one machine since 2015.   It took 3 rounds with tech support to clear it. ...

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Those are completely unrelated, a coincidence is not reality, plus it does not change the fact that R2016 has no 'development' since it was relegated to the 'legacy' category with Autodesk.

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@dennis wrote:

...It would be nice if they published a patch for all versions to deal with all the dead chaff that still exists like Acad360 and the dead design ceter stuff. And an offline help that actuall works. 

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It's all online if you can find it, Autodesk has informational items online but has chosen to not host any downloads related to 2016 for quite some time now. But you can find them at 3rd party websites if you dig deep enough

https://www.google.com/search?q=autocad+2016+updates   

[dennis]

update:  it is not a file issue. AutoCAD is using something on OneDrive. I can not figure out what yet. There was a Windows type ballon notification by I have not been able to track it down. 

login is a LOCAL account on the machine- no Microsoft type user account BS. purely local.  

i dont know how to be more clear- ALL file storage is LOCAL. there is no network file storage.

the system is a workstation that has been rock stable for like 6-7 years. nothing has been purposefuly or materially changed recently. conversion from Win8 ot Win10 was ??? years ago?  conversion to SSD drives was 4-5 years ago. 

the notice that there is some OneDrive shennanagins is troubling. I have avoided all cloud type stuff for reasons. 

[paullimapa]

Since you mentioned OneDrive I'd say that's the culprit. Is your OneDrive setup Files On-Demand to Download All files or Free up disk space?

[pendean]

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@dennis wrote:

update:  it is not a file issue. AutoCAD is using something on OneDrive. I can not figure out what yet. ...

the notice that there is some OneDrive shennanagins is troubling. I have avoided all cloud type stuff for reasons. ...

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and more

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msoffice/forum/all/how-to-completely-disable-onedrive-syncing/ea... 

[CodeDing]

@dennis ,

You're not crazy, I have noticed also that AutoCAD (I personally run Civil 3D) runs slower when the PC is connected to the internet VS when it is disconnected and I'm working on local files. 

I chalk it up to "probably something dumb that AutoCAD is continuously doing in the background when connected to the internet". I'm no network/computer expert, so I have no idea how to monitor or prove it 💩 But I don't think your crazy, and I doubt an acceptable answer could be found on the forums

Best,

~DD