Need to hide lines

[Anonymous]

Hi! I need to hide or remove these lines (see picture). They appear because I have a change in element radius right in this place, so the program draw these lines correct, but I don't need them. I have to say in addition, that all this elements are blocks, so I have to go inside the block editor to be able to make some changes.

Thank you!

[Alfred.NESWADBA]

Hi,

If all is drawn correctly with 3D objects then just switch teh visual style to something like "Hidden" or "Conceptual".

To give you ideas for how to edit objects we would need to know which objects you have!

Are that lines or 3D-solids or what is it in the screenshot? If you upload the drawing we can suggest workflows, but without know what you have it will use time as we can only send guess-by-guess.

- alfred -

[Anonymous]

I see.

"Are that lines or 3D-solids or what is it in the screenshot?" – they are 3D objects which have been created by NovaPoint under Autocad. It is an upper part of a road tunnel.

The problem is that these lines have to be there, because, as I said, it's a transition from one radius to another one in the geometry of these elements. But I don.t want to show them in the paper space (see picture). So, I wonder about if it's possible so hide or remove them. Each element is a block in AutoCAD, which is mean that I have to open Block Editor to perform any manipulations with these objects.

[Alfred.NESWADBA]

Hi,

>> they are 3D objects

>> Each element is a block in AutoCAD

And within the block(s), which object types are these 3D objects within the block?

>> So, I wonder about if it's possible so hide or remove them

Have you tried my suggestion about visual style?

- alfred -

(guessing may continue, but it needs time to get a solution 😉 )

[Anonymous]

"Have you tried my suggestion about visual style?" – I need to hide lines on PAPER space. It is not about how I show them on the screen.

Here is a file (saved in AutoCAD 2014). In the "hiden edes problem.zip" archive you can open file "for Forum.dwg". In the paper space you can also show how it displays there.

[Alfred.NESWADBA]

Hi,

>> I need to hide lines on PAPER space

Sorry, I don't see any objects in paper-space at all (except the viewport itself and a polyline with 0 length). But that might have to do with your application and so proxy-objects in the drawing.

That is what I see in the layout "Plan 1":

As the above part of the layout shows a viewport you can change it's visual style to "Hidden":

If you create more viewports you can set each viewport to a different visual style, whatever you need to see from the geometry.

I would also ask the vendor of the application which creates these proxies:

- alfred -

[swieciakpawel]

Hello,

I believe suggestion by @Alfred.NESWADBA about Visual Styles might still be a solution for Your issue.

In addition, to what was mentioned about "Hidden" style, If you want to hide visibility of the edges at curvature change, there is also possbility to modify Visual style and disable edges (but Faces have to be turned on Instead)

Kind Regards,
Pawel

[Anonymous]

You have opened it correct, actually it is the paper space, isn't? Probably call it wrong.

But I don't see that you hide the edges I showed in the previous picture with this Hidden mode.

That I actually need is to have it like on the last print screen (see below), but without any shading on the model. But if I choose None for Edge Settings and None for Face Style (shading), I get a message that it's impossible.

[swieciakpawel]

Well unfortunately You cannot just hide/remove a single edge of a 3d solid without editing it.

If You would change the material transparency to 100% You would be left with empty screen.

Instead, I would try some crude methods to solve Your problem.. It's not really nice way to sort this out, but that's just first thing that I would use if I had to make drawing as soon as possible.

You can use VIEWBASE command to create Top View of Your elements

Then copy the model elements into the Layout with the Viewbase.

Freeze the "TunElem_Roof" within this viewport.

Result:

But personally, I'd just make those blocks correctly if this was so important to have no lines.

Kind Regards,

Pawel

[beyoungjr]

Hi rogl,  Good advice leading you to the visual styles manager.  You have found some good info for playing with the styles but I think this will; be simple.

I would suggest choosing the "Shaded" visual style for your viewport and simply choosing a color for your solid layer (TunElem_Roof) that works for you.  All of your attribute text would have to be a visible color against the solid background of course (only the bottom row is in the drawing you posted.

I set the color of the TunElem_Roof layer to 255,255,255.

Also, you will probably need to adjust lineweights for this too.

Good luck!

[Anonymous]

Yes, I see.

I understand that is a sort of specific/unusual problem, which in many other cases shouldn't be adjust at all. But in my case it would be reasonable to hide this lines, because they just clutter the drawing. 

"But personally, I'd just make those blocks correctly if this was so important to have no lines" – the is that the elements modeled correctly. It will be an edge there, because the arc of this element consist two different radiuses, and the connection between those two radiuses is not a tangential.

But thank you anyway.

[Anonymous]

"Good advice leading you to the visual styles manager. ...but I think this will; be simple." – thank you or your advice but I already did it, and it was actually simple. But you can't just apply a flat white color. It will be shading anyway. It would be solution, and I thought in this direction, because in the end I just need to have NO color or shading on the elements on the print version. But it doesn't like that. See picture ↓

[swieciakpawel]

Hello,

>>> the is that the elements modeled correctly.<<<<

I'm extremely sorry for such implication, my simple mind just couldn't think of any reason for hiding something that should be visible. My greatest apologies.

If white fill that @beyoungjr kindly proposed suit Your needs, then just hit RENDEREXPOSURE command and set the "Exposure" to minimum value, and you just got rid of all this funny shading.

Kind Regards,
Pawel

[beyoungjr]

Thanks for catching that Pawel.  I also meant to type that in the post but forgot that detail.

Looks like a problem that I would definitely change my entity creation for but we're all happy to help others "command and conquer".  

[Anonymous]

"...my simple mind just couldn't think of any reason for hiding something that should be visible" – well, it is we (engineers) define how to create things, and what "should" or "shouldn't be" visible, isn't? I working with some type of drawings and paper documentation where the drawings are quite densely packed in the sheet. And yes, sometimes some lines are not preferred to be shown, even they have to be modeled physically.

I've write in my first post that I need to hide lines which have been modeled correct. I'm not sure if I interpreted it correct, but I see that you are CAD Engineer, consequently you try to kidding me in some way with all this "my simple mind just couldn't think...". I'm not sure that is acceptable in such situation, but thank you anyway for your tips.

In the RENDEREXPOSURE I see brightness, contrast, mid tones, exterior daylight and process background, but no exposure option.

Well, I don't think that we should spend more time on it. Thank you all for your comments.

[Anonymous]

Yes, welcome to a new paradigm of the existence, in which some lines are preferable to be hidden in a particular engineering drawing.

[jeremy5YMNZ]

sorry but have the engineers at autodesk figured this one out yet?

it's a very simple solution in inventor i don't understand why it wouldn't be implemented 

[pendean]

@jeremy5YMNZ No one here is Autodesk, we are all end users just like you who volunteer around here to help each other out.

Inventor is not AutoCAD, you don't just snip a piece of code from one and drop it into the other. Autodesk is not one dude sitting next to another dude going "hey Dude, you should do this in your program". It does not work like that, never has, never will. It should, but... .

If you want to make suggestions to Autodesk for software enhancements, you can do so here https://www.autodesk.com/company/contact-us/product-feedback

[travisgoffZ2B3C]

I would use the VIEWBASE command to see if that can get you what you are needing. You may also want to copy out the overall assembly (block), and BURST it for making additional VIEWBASE views of any subassemblies.

[jeremy5YMNZ]

Thanks it's under view base that i'm trying to hide specific lines. At the moment the only solution i've found is masking.

Not ideal but it works