Lineweight not showing in any paperspace

[Anonymous]

I am already having trouble this morning, please help.

I cannot see a lineweight in paperspace to save my life.  They look correct in modelspace but not in paperspace.  I have the following set:

MSLTSCALE = 1
PSLTSCALE = 1
LTSCALE = 1

and I am showing lineweight.

The lines are all displaying correctly with respect to color and linetype.  Any other settings I am missing?

Does CTB or STB matter?  I honestly have no idea.

Any help would be appreciated.  Let me know if this should be asked someplace else.

Thank you.

[Anonymous]

I am already having trouble this morning, please help.

I cannot see a lineweight in paperspace to save my life.  They look correct in modelspace but not in paperspace.  I have the following set:

MSLTSCALE = 1
PSLTSCALE = 1
LTSCALE = 1

and I am showing lineweight.

The lines are all displaying correctly with respect to color and linetype.  Any other settings I am missing?

Does CTB or STB matter?  I honestly have no idea.

Any help would be appreciated.  Let me know if this should be asked someplace else.

Thank you.

[imadHabash]

Hi,

would you please show us an image for your issue ? also confirm that you're asking for Lineweight  NOT linetype scale .

[imadHabash]

Hi,

would you please show us an image for your issue ? also confirm that you're asking for Lineweight  NOT linetype scale .

[Anonymous]

The blue lines are supposed to be thicker than they are showing on this screenshot:

What is the difference between lineweight and linetype scale?

I just want the lines to show thicker when I look in paperspace and when I print.  I thought that was called lineweight.  Am I asking the wrong question?

This is what model space looks like and what I want to see in paperspace and plot:

Thanks.

[Anonymous]

The blue lines are supposed to be thicker than they are showing on this screenshot:

What is the difference between lineweight and linetype scale?

I just want the lines to show thicker when I look in paperspace and when I print.  I thought that was called lineweight.  Am I asking the wrong question?

This is what model space looks like and what I want to see in paperspace and plot:

Thanks.

[beyoungjr]

Activate your Paper Space viewport by double-clicking in the viewport.  Then turn on Lineweight display.  Deactivate the viewport by clicking the Model icon at bottom center or double-click outside of the viewport.

I typically do not display linweight while working on the drawing but instead on when plotting/printing.  There is a selection in your print dialog for printing lineweights.

The difference between lineweight and linetype scale has to do with pen/pencil width vs. the resolution (or frequency) of dots and dashes.

Hope that helps.

[beyoungjr]

Activate your Paper Space viewport by double-clicking in the viewport.  Then turn on Lineweight display.  Deactivate the viewport by clicking the Model icon at bottom center or double-click outside of the viewport.

I typically do not display linweight while working on the drawing but instead on when plotting/printing.  There is a selection in your print dialog for printing lineweights.

The difference between lineweight and linetype scale has to do with pen/pencil width vs. the resolution (or frequency) of dots and dashes.

Hope that helps.

[imadHabash]

Hi,

>> Am I asking the wrong question? <<

NO .. now it's clear and you're asking the right question. BUT you have to know that there is a big difference between lineweight and ltscale . and i ask you for confirmation because the system variable that you mention it in your OP was for Ltscale issues related to dashed and dotted lines. 

could you please attache some of your CAD file (same as your previous screen shot ) here so we can give you further help ? 

Regards,

[imadHabash]

Hi,

>> Am I asking the wrong question? <<

NO .. now it's clear and you're asking the right question. BUT you have to know that there is a big difference between lineweight and ltscale . and i ask you for confirmation because the system variable that you mention it in your OP was for Ltscale issues related to dashed and dotted lines. 

could you please attache some of your CAD file (same as your previous screen shot ) here so we can give you further help ? 

Regards,

[Anonymous]

Thanks @beyoungjr, I had already tried that but with no success.

[Anonymous]

Thanks @beyoungjr, I had already tried that but with no success.

[beyoungjr]

So post the dwg please and I'll figure it out.  What part was no success?

[beyoungjr]

So post the dwg please and I'll figure it out.  What part was no success?

[Anonymous]

@beyoungjr I tried what you suggested and the lines still do not show up the way I want.  I attached a file as an example.

[Anonymous]

@beyoungjr I tried what you suggested and the lines still do not show up the way I want.  I attached a file as an example.

[imadHabash]

Hi,

honestly i didn't found a reason for such a case !! But your issue will resolved if you took your drawing to another new blank drawing . 

Regards,

[imadHabash]

Hi,

honestly i didn't found a reason for such a case !! But your issue will resolved if you took your drawing to another new blank drawing . 

Regards,

[beyoungjr]

I found that your "lift" block is made up of three-thousand-one-hundred-ninety-nine entities!  I just had to spell that out

The object does not appear to need that many.  I used Delete Duplicates (Overkill) in the block editor to clean it up and there were 62 duplicated and 706 overlapping objects.  I then looked at the many layers that the block objects lived on and I must recommend consolidating all these objects to the zero (0) layer with ByLayer color, lineweight, linetype assigned to all the object while selecting and view properties.

Now back out to the drawing editor... The offensive blue lines are assigned .6mm lineweight while other objects are assigned ByLayer and other various values.

This is MESSY.  You need to get your drafting standards together and use layer assignments to control colors, lineweights, and linetypes (to the best extent possible).

Copying these objects to a new drawing WILL transfer all of the object settings along with.

No ofense intended but you need to recognize the huge mess within Properties for your drawing objects and blocks.  Blocks will behave flawlessly when they have root definitions for objects on zero layer with ByLayer settings.  You can then simply insert them or move them onto your desired layer and they will inherit the settings for the layer.

Cheers,

Blaine

[beyoungjr]

I found that your "lift" block is made up of three-thousand-one-hundred-ninety-nine entities!  I just had to spell that out

The object does not appear to need that many.  I used Delete Duplicates (Overkill) in the block editor to clean it up and there were 62 duplicated and 706 overlapping objects.  I then looked at the many layers that the block objects lived on and I must recommend consolidating all these objects to the zero (0) layer with ByLayer color, lineweight, linetype assigned to all the object while selecting and view properties.

Now back out to the drawing editor... The offensive blue lines are assigned .6mm lineweight while other objects are assigned ByLayer and other various values.

This is MESSY.  You need to get your drafting standards together and use layer assignments to control colors, lineweights, and linetypes (to the best extent possible).

Copying these objects to a new drawing WILL transfer all of the object settings along with.

No ofense intended but you need to recognize the huge mess within Properties for your drawing objects and blocks.  Blocks will behave flawlessly when they have root definitions for objects on zero layer with ByLayer settings.  You can then simply insert them or move them onto your desired layer and they will inherit the settings for the layer.

Cheers,

Blaine

[beyoungjr · Accepted solution]

So the fast fix I just completed is to select everything on screen and set color, lineweight, and linetype to ByLayer.

Next go to your Layer Manger and change all of the non-Default lineweight to Default.

Every line and object displayed will have the same lineweight when printed or displayed in PaperSpace.

Work forward from that point altering layer settings to achieve a good technique.

[beyoungjr · Accepted solution]

So the fast fix I just completed is to select everything on screen and set color, lineweight, and linetype to ByLayer.

Next go to your Layer Manger and change all of the non-Default lineweight to Default.

Every line and object displayed will have the same lineweight when printed or displayed in PaperSpace.

Work forward from that point altering layer settings to achieve a good technique.

[Johanna_Esteban]

Hello Ronald,

There are ways to apply thickness to your lines, assuming you applied the pen thicknesses in the layer manager (command LA), and that each property entity corresponds to "per layer" would be fine. (See Image Properties)

The detail is that by visualization and comfort when working, you can activate or deactivate to see the thickness of lines in the model, without affecting the allocation you already made, LWDISPLAY command. (See bottom icon Numbered 1 in image)

Now, the viewports ( in layout tab) you should see them represented also and it will be closer to the reality. You should note that Although you can apply small thicknesses, you will not have a preview of those smaller than .30, without this meaning that they are not assigned. (See numbered 3 in image)

It is, at the moment and in the plotting box, where you can configure .ctb and others.

I give you an example of what I say with any file, and to show you the difference between "line thickness" (numbered 3 in image) and "scale in line type" (see numbered 4), this goes hand in hand With the scale and the way you want to plot.

The line thickness is indifferent the type of linea that you use, that is to say, center, dashed, continuous, etc.

I hope this solves your inconvenience, or it helps you, I will be attentive if you want more information, do not hesitate contact with me.

Regards,

[Johanna_Esteban]

Hello Ronald,

There are ways to apply thickness to your lines, assuming you applied the pen thicknesses in the layer manager (command LA), and that each property entity corresponds to "per layer" would be fine. (See Image Properties)

The detail is that by visualization and comfort when working, you can activate or deactivate to see the thickness of lines in the model, without affecting the allocation you already made, LWDISPLAY command. (See bottom icon Numbered 1 in image)

Now, the viewports ( in layout tab) you should see them represented also and it will be closer to the reality. You should note that Although you can apply small thicknesses, you will not have a preview of those smaller than .30, without this meaning that they are not assigned. (See numbered 3 in image)

It is, at the moment and in the plotting box, where you can configure .ctb and others.

I give you an example of what I say with any file, and to show you the difference between "line thickness" (numbered 3 in image) and "scale in line type" (see numbered 4), this goes hand in hand With the scale and the way you want to plot.

The line thickness is indifferent the type of linea that you use, that is to say, center, dashed, continuous, etc.

I hope this solves your inconvenience, or it helps you, I will be attentive if you want more information, do not hesitate contact with me.

Regards,

[Anonymous]

@beyoungjr Thanks for the assist, I went the quick route and got everything to look correct.

The block came from a vendor, so I cannot take any credit for its construction.

I inherited the rest of the drawing.  It was created initially at least 4 CAD managers ago, none of which passed down or enforced any sort of drawing standard.  My self taught skills are very lacking.  I know the drawing is a mess, I am working on it and appreciate your feedback.

I followed your quick idea, every layer has the default LW and every object is controlled by layers.

Then I created a new box, put it on an existing layer and changed that layers lineweight to 1mm and I am back in the same position I was in.  The modelspace looks correct, but paperspace does not show the line weight.

But 'weight', after going in and out of paperspace a few times and moving things around and a bunch of regens, it looks correct.

What is the actual technique to get the display correct?  I literally just moved and clicked and regened until it showed correctly without actually knowing what caused the proper display.  Not my proudest moment.  Anyone know for sure exactly what is required?

Thanks to all of you, @imadHabash and @Johanna_Esteban for the help.

[Anonymous]

@beyoungjr Thanks for the assist, I went the quick route and got everything to look correct.

The block came from a vendor, so I cannot take any credit for its construction.

I inherited the rest of the drawing.  It was created initially at least 4 CAD managers ago, none of which passed down or enforced any sort of drawing standard.  My self taught skills are very lacking.  I know the drawing is a mess, I am working on it and appreciate your feedback.

I followed your quick idea, every layer has the default LW and every object is controlled by layers.

Then I created a new box, put it on an existing layer and changed that layers lineweight to 1mm and I am back in the same position I was in.  The modelspace looks correct, but paperspace does not show the line weight.

But 'weight', after going in and out of paperspace a few times and moving things around and a bunch of regens, it looks correct.

What is the actual technique to get the display correct?  I literally just moved and clicked and regened until it showed correctly without actually knowing what caused the proper display.  Not my proudest moment.  Anyone know for sure exactly what is required?

Thanks to all of you, @imadHabash and @Johanna_Esteban for the help.

[beyoungjr]

In Paper Space layout tabs you are likely using Viewports.  The lineweight display can be activated on a layout tab by simply using the lineweight toggle button.  However, the lineweight toggle button is not shown by default install of ACAD.  You must use the "Hamburger Menu" (3 horizontal bars button at bottom right) to make the lineweight icon visible on the bottom bar.  Once visible you can toggle visibility on/off.

Of course you can also type "Lineweight" to get the control dialog.

Also have a look at other icon controls in the "Hamburger Menu" (funny nickname by Autodesk guru Lynn Allen) that you may want to set as visible.

Hope that clears it a bit more.

Cheers

[beyoungjr]

In Paper Space layout tabs you are likely using Viewports.  The lineweight display can be activated on a layout tab by simply using the lineweight toggle button.  However, the lineweight toggle button is not shown by default install of ACAD.  You must use the "Hamburger Menu" (3 horizontal bars button at bottom right) to make the lineweight icon visible on the bottom bar.  Once visible you can toggle visibility on/off.

Of course you can also type "Lineweight" to get the control dialog.

Also have a look at other icon controls in the "Hamburger Menu" (funny nickname by Autodesk guru Lynn Allen) that you may want to set as visible.

Hope that clears it a bit more.

Cheers

[Anonymous]

@beyoungjr is there a way to use paperspace without view ports?

I did toggle the LW display switch and I swear it did nothing the first few times I toggled it.  Perhaps I missed it.  Regardless, I am all set now.

Thank you again for your help.

[Anonymous]

@beyoungjr is there a way to use paperspace without view ports?

I did toggle the LW display switch and I swear it did nothing the first few times I toggled it.  Perhaps I missed it.  Regardless, I am all set now.

Thank you again for your help.

[beyoungjr]

Glad you're all set.

View Base command set is for 3D Solid modeling.  Lots of info online and in these forums about the subject but if you are strictly Architecture then probably not gonna get much use out of it.

If you are an ACAD enthusiast you might still find it AWESOME!

Cheers

[beyoungjr]

Glad you're all set.

View Base command set is for 3D Solid modeling.  Lots of info online and in these forums about the subject but if you are strictly Architecture then probably not gonna get much use out of it.

If you are an ACAD enthusiast you might still find it AWESOME!

Cheers

[Anonymous]

Thats model space you he clearly asked for help in paper space

[Anonymous]

Thats model space you he clearly asked for help in paper space

[Anonymous]

hello, can someone help me why my lineweight cannot display when plot in workspace. I have ticked plot with linetype and plot with plot styles. So, if anyone know the solution please reply to me asap because this is one of my task given by my supervisor.

[Anonymous]

hello, can someone help me why my lineweight cannot display when plot in workspace. I have ticked plot with linetype and plot with plot styles. So, if anyone know the solution please reply to me asap because this is one of my task given by my supervisor.

[beyoungjr]

There are a few things I notice in your plot manager that you may want to try.  Start with choosing the Autodesk PDF printer emultaor instead of your Adobe PDF virtual printer.  I have a few other ideas but iff you are able to share your dwg file I may be able to help you solve it better.

Blaine

[beyoungjr]

There are a few things I notice in your plot manager that you may want to try.  Start with choosing the Autodesk PDF printer emultaor instead of your Adobe PDF virtual printer.  I have a few other ideas but iff you are able to share your dwg file I may be able to help you solve it better.

Blaine

[Anonymous]

I had to fix another consultant's drawings for my client constructing off them, I had the opposite problem of lines in PS appearing much thicker than in MS, even though everything is setbylayer. Eventually found the cause, even though the drawings were intended to plot on A1, Page Setup had them plotting on A4 scaled to fit. So I changed the plot size to A1, changed scale to 1:1, got rid of the problem.

[Anonymous]

I had to fix another consultant's drawings for my client constructing off them, I had the opposite problem of lines in PS appearing much thicker than in MS, even though everything is setbylayer. Eventually found the cause, even though the drawings were intended to plot on A1, Page Setup had them plotting on A4 scaled to fit. So I changed the plot size to A1, changed scale to 1:1, got rid of the problem.