INSERT command inserts the old block again and again

INSERT command inserts the old block again and again

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INSERT command inserts the old block again and again

Anonymous
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Hello AutoCAD community,

 

I am pretty new to AutoCAD and I am facing a weird issue. I have multiple different 2D DWG files and I am trying to create an assembly of them in a new DWG file. So I did the folowing:

 

1. Open a new file

2. Type INSERT and select the first DWG in the browser

3. Place the drawing at the origin

4. Now I type INSERT again and select the second DWG in the browser

5. Here comes the trouble... When I place the second DWG it turns out to be the first DWG!

 

But both the DWGs are different and they are different when opened individually. But when I try to insert them one by one, only the first DWG gets repeated. 

 

I tried this in AutoCAD 2019 trial version, Student version 2016. I even tried it in a different PC and the problem remains. I have used PURGE option and tried clearing my windows clipboard. No luck.

 

It would be really great if someone can help me with this. 

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cadffm
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Please add a circle in the first dwg, save

Try it again 

Insert [browse..] 1.dwg

Insert [browse..] 2.dwg

 

can see the circle in both blocks?

 

 

Sebastian

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Anonymous
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Hi CADffm,

 

I tried it. So now 2.DWG (right) still looks like 1.DWG (left), but I can't see the circle in the second insert. 

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designdistrict7
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Hi,

I am not sure but try this

Check your both drawings are in block or not , if it as a block then check whether they have same block name, if same,rename block in any one drawing. then try again to insert in new drawing.

1- open 1st drawing and check the drawings are in block or not

2- do same with second drawing

3- if drawings are in block check whether they are in same name

3- if they are in same block name,  then rename block in any one of the drawing

4- open a new drawing and try to insert

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jayhar
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These Two drawing are BLOCK in same name ???

 

give different name of block. purge first then insert

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pendean
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The file you are in already has a block with that name: you are not replacing it.
Start RENAME command to change the name of the block already in the file, then try INSERT once more.



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Anonymous
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Thank you everyone for your response. Based on your advices I have narrowed down the problem. The DWG files are in blocks with different names.

 

But it seems that whenever I insert a DWG file it creates a block called 'CustomObjectsInViewport3_0'. If I RENAME it to some random name and then import the second DWG, I have no problem. But then if I have to insert a 3rd file, I must once again RENAME the 'CustomObjectsInViewport3_0' to another name. Otherwise the previous block will be inserted again.

 

Though I am happy that at least now I am able to insert two different blocks, I know I am doing something wrong or silly 😛 

 

Sorry that the screenshot is in German version. Hope somebody can solve this. 

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cadffm
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Auf deutsch erkläre ich auch gerne mehr und im Detail 😉

Hier ist übrigens das deutschsprachige Forum: https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-produktfamilie-deutsch/bd-p/3544

 

Wenn du mal so eine Datei bereitstellen würdest, dann könnte man ggf. noch mehr dazu sagen,

technisch macht es aber keinen Unterschied ob ich den Inhalt kenne oder nicht.

 

Der NAme des Blockes ist eindeutig nicht von einer Person benannt worden,

also nehme ich an du hast die Datei von wem anders erhalten der ggf. auch mit einer

anderen Software arbeitet, richtig?

 

Die Sache selbst hast du jetzt verstanden? Jemand hat 5 Kartons mit "Küche" beschriftet,

darin ist aber im ersten Karton die Dinge aus dem Bad, im zweiten aus dem Wohnzimmer, im dritten

aus dem Schlafzimmer, im vierten aus der Kücher und im fünften sind die Dinge vom Keller verstaut worden.

Also alles in allem, sehr gut die Dinge praktisch und sortiert  in einem Karton(Block) unterzubringen,

aber leider sind die Dinger unglücklich beschriftet worden.

 

Wenn AutoCAD Blockreferenzen erstellen soll wird geschaut ob es bereits einen Block mit dem Namen gibt,

falls nein wird die Blockdefinition importiert und die Blockreferenz erzeugt, falls es bereits einen Block mit dem

Namen gibt, so wird direkt eine Blockreferenz erzeugt (welche natürlich auf die vorhandene Blockdefinition

referenziert). Ergebnis: Zwei Blockreferenzen auf denselben Block.

 

Mit deinen DWG Dateien hat dies nichts zutun, nur mit den darin enthaltenen Objekten(Blöcken).

 

Wie können wir dir weiterhelfen?

 

Eine Frage hätte ich an der Stelle noch: Warum fügst du alle Dateien als Block in eine andere Datei ein?

Um auf den Punkt meiner Frage zu kommen: Kennst du die "XREF Technik"?

Dabei referenziert man nur die externen Dateien (es wird als nicht Bestandteil der "Masterdatei"),

mit jedem mal laden wird also der Inhalt der externen Dateien temporär geladen und angezeigt,

somit ist man auf dem aktuellen Stand falls sich dwg1,2 oder 3 mal ändert.

XREF - [F1]

 

Hier mal ein Link der sicher recht nach Nerd ausschaut: Klick1 und Klick2  und wenn Zeit ist einfach mal alle lesen Klick3

Sebastian

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beyoungjr
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You indicated that you are fairly new to ACAD so I'll offer a couple of suggestions to aid in deciding your workflow for 2D projects.

 

By using the Insert Block command and browsing to your target XXX.dwg file you are simple creating a Block inside of your assembly drawing.  Not a bad thing but maybe not what you ultimately would be after?  Those new blocks will be independent of the original drawing and would rely on manually revising the assembly drawing whenever you revise one of the component drawings.  That's ok if it fits your intent.

 

The same circumstance would exist if you were to copy and paste the objects from one open drawing into another open drawing.  The objects would assemble and be collectively placed but would require manual updating when changing you original component drawings.  Again ok if it fits your intent, and probably the simplest method for early learners.

 

A third choice would be XREF.  This is for bringing a drawing or multiple drawings into another for the purposes of overlay or collective assembly.  This method can aid in revisions to the assembly drawing whenever you revise the component drawings but you have to apply pathing and file location rules to fully realize the benefits.

 

As you progress toward 3D work you might find that assembly drawings could follow any of these workflows as well.

 

The prior replies in this chain appear to have addressed block insertion and naming quite well but I thought I'd offer other thoughts for you.

 

Hope this helps,

Blaine

 


Blaine Young
Senior Engineering Technician, US Army