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I'm using AutoCAD 2019. In paper space, I inserted an image that will have text and objects in front of it. When I select the image and change the draw order to be in the back, it works, but as soon as I change tabs, it goes back to being in the front. I've never had this problems in previous versions. Any ideas on why this is happening?
>>>...I was surprised ... having draw order problems with 2018...<<< DRAWORDER issues remain subjective, or tend to be very specific under very specific circumstances: there is no universal fix/solution or all of us all of the time in any version.
A rule that never fails in 20+ years of AutoCAD use: copies/new entities added are always on top unless that entity has a variable that controls it (think hatches and text). That's why you see fixes for "copy and erase original" as a workaround since that's the default for AutoCAD over the decades.
Assuming your video card/driver is not helping mess things up.
TLDR response: there will never be a magical cure for draworder for everyone. Never.
OR, maybe AutoDesk could just fix the Draworder command so that it actually works - all the time. Actually - as a graphical program AutoCAD is unsophisticated. We are losing money and plot time is usually a time-stressed event. Diddling around with weird program behavior in a stressful time is - well - it sucks a lot.
The lack of AutoDesk response simply shows they don't care enough to solve the issue for their clients. We should be able to group any selection set of layers into one of at least 3 groups of plot order. If it took even 3 times as long to plot - but plotted with the correct transparency and draw order - that would be a win. I think AutoDesk needs to step up and make this problem go completely away - once and for all.
But it has been a problem since day one so you would hope someone at Autodesk is listening, we get new functions that no one uses but this one everyone wants to work. So let's hope the Autocad Gods find a solution.
>>>...30 sheets and you have to go back and fix the draw order ...<<< Honestly that's never been an issue here in our office for any of our users for the last 20+years: if you have examples to share please do, otherwise we'll have to chalk it up to not enough people like you reporting a repeatable issue to Autodesk over the years (again, posting in these forums does nothing to move that along).
This is crazy... we have to publish our sheets from our old 2018 installs. 2021 completely ignores the Draw Order you set. Trying to find and fix every object you used Draw Order on and fix it is almost impossible. Hatches you pushed in back of XREFs plot on top of them. Blocks with hatches have to be recreated in the correct order. This needs to be fixed ...
I have contacted Autodesk, other CAD Managers, and our Reseller, and they all say there is no fix for 2021 yet. They have pulled development resources from Civil 3D and Core group to come up with one... If you are still on 2020 they have finished a Hot Fix for it but you have to ask for it. Hopefully 2021 fix will be soon. I have workarounds and I know how to redo dwgs or blocks with the correct creation order so that ignoring of draw order is tolerable for a short time. But there is not amount if information i can give you that would allow you to actually help with a fix. Unless you can write a lisp that re - creates blocks or dwgs creation order based on the drawing order settings.
Also, some of the Draw orders issues were fixed with current Updates and Service packs. The current issue is when a reference template defines a block in you dwg (which you cannot stop if it is in a style that it is providing) then it ignores the draw order. And then there is the wipeouts in structures plotting black... which led me to replacing them with screen0 hatches, which led to finding out that ref templates ignore draw order when defining a block in the destination. So if you are fixing your wipeout issue in your pipe structures, you just have to delete the line work and put it on top of the screen0 hatch. Or of you are still using CTB, apparently the wipeouts are using color 7, so you can set that to screen0 and not use it for anything else.
Although it is far better to contact Autodesk and provide them with enough information to have them replicate the issue and send it to development. Posting issues to these forums does help a little. Ranting relieves stress, and if users see that other users have the same issue then they know it is not their machine, and may open a ticket.
i appreciate your willingness to help, however, it seems like the AutoCAD part of this has been fixed. And the only issue remaining are in Civil 3D 2021.1
What.. You seem to have issues. not only are you acknowledging my acknowledging that the Autocad Core issue have now been fixed with the latest update, you are wining that i mentioned them in the first place. Then you say i should not mention a Civil 3D issue even if i am acknowledging that the question would go in a different forum, but at the same time you sign all your post with something about Revit... that does not belong in this forum. Chill out.
Thank you for calling me a kid, I have not been called that in almost half of a century. But i do believe these forum posts should be answers to relevant questions, not quips directed at frustrated users. I do hope you got your rating up by answering real questions, and not just the number of rhetorical posts you make.
