Cannot delete 1:1 scale from Annotative block

[bull504]

Ever since upgrading to Autocad 2025, any annotative blocks that contain attributes that are inserted into a drawing always contain the 1:1 scale attached to them and it cannot be deleted. Example, the elevation callout below was inserted on a 3/4" scale but comes in with the 1:1 also. In previous versions it would only have the 3/4" scale attached. I cannot delete the 1:1 from the block. Anyone know what is going on? 

[cadffm]

>"rarely works"

I know, but in this case - let wonders begin

Offtopic: Post a link to the "2024 pc3 bug", because I don't know about such a bug, except it started earlier an we talking about .pc3 older than the program version.

[baccioni · Accepted solution]

I found a workaround to get rid of the 1:1 bugged scale:

Open block editor. Set the block itself as NOT annotative. Save it. The blocks drops every scale, including the buggedd 1:1. Reopen the block editor. Set the block AS ANNOTATIVE. Save it. The 1:1 is gone for all the instances. Reassign the right annotative scales if you need. Now the block works. (Note that the inserted blocks could have been scaled. Select them all and set the appropriate geometry scale, usually 1). 

[bull504]

I'm lucky I saw this because I can't get email notifications of replies to my posts even though I have the settings in my account turned on. 

I just tested this and that work around works, though it is frustrating because I have hundreds of drawings, with multiple different annotative blocks. It'll take days to correct. I also found inserting from the Block Palette instead of the Tool Palette allows the inserted block to work properly but redefining from the Block Palette does not fix the existing blocks. 

Does anyone know what the proper bug reporting path to Autodesk is? Or we just hope they read the forums and bookmark bugs? 

[imankassab2015]

Nice answers for you

[pendean]

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@bull504 wrote:

...Does anyone know what the proper bug reporting path to Autodesk is? Or we just hope they read the forums and bookmark bugs? 

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You and a few hundred subscribers need to post over at this webpage to report bugs and wishes (no, they do not read these forums looking for tasks to do):

 https://www.autodesk.com/company/contact-us/product-feedback 

[paullimapa]

FYI, looks like Autodesk has now punted the feedback link to only 3 areas with one of them here in the Autodesk forums:

[daverct · Accepted solution]

Throwing my 2 cents in for anyone coming across this post. I also have had this issue , though with the scale 1'-0" = 1'-0". I have found through trial and error that, for me, the problem occurs when inserting a dynamic block (that has an attribute) from the tool palette. Non-dynamic blocks didn't seem to have the issue. Also inserting the block with ddinsert created a block without the issue. I have found  a couple of fixes so far:

1. For drawings that already have problematic blocks, you can select all the problematic blocks, and right click and add/delete scale (under annotative object scale). Weird thing here, you now re-add the problematic scale, so 1'-0" = 1'-0"  for me. You shouldn't be able to add it, as it already exists in the list, but you can. Once you add it, if you now delete it from list, it will stay deleted, and the block text will always show at the scale it was inserted even if you change the drawing scale. I wrote  a quick and dirty lisp program to do this, see below. (Why this solution works, I do not know, its not intuitive.)
2. To prevent future blocks from not having this issue (if you don't always want to do step 1), you can always add lisp routines to the tool palette that will insert the block using the insert command, instead of linking directly to the block. This is an annoying temporary solution; you have to write the routine, and you then have to select images for the link on the tool palette.
3. Alternative to 2, I think if your block is its own drawing and instead of linking the block by dragging it onto the palette, if instead you copy the block drawing (through windows explorer) and paste it onto the palette, and under properties of the tool you insert it as a block and check off to explode it, then the inserted block won't have the issue. Downside to this is while you are inserting the block it is really small until you click somewhere.

Lisp routine:

(defun c:fixattscale (/ ss scl)
(vl-load-com)
; Removes 1'-0" = 1'-0" and 1:1 scales from annotative blocks
; This is to fix a bug where attributes will shrink when changing scale of drawing to anything but the inserted scale

(setq ss (ssget))
  
(setq scl "1'-0\" = 1'-0\"")
(vl-cmdf "-objectscale" ss "" "add" scl "")
(vl-cmdf "-objectscale" ss "" "delete" scl "")
  
(setq scl "1:1")
(vl-cmdf "-objectscale" ss "" "add" scl "")
(vl-cmdf "-objectscale" ss "" "delete" scl "")
  
)

(princ)

[clareHJ676]

FYI reply from Customer support in case anyone else is having the same issue:

Thanks for contacting Autodesk Technical Support Team.

This is Sophia Lee who will be assisting on '1:1 scale being added to dynamic annotative blocks inserted from Tool palette'.

This is known issue for 2025 and has been fixed in AutoCAD 2026 version which was released 2 weeks ago. AutoCAD 2024 version is also working as expected. But I would highly recommend to use our latest version of AutoCAD which has many enhancements!

• What's new in AutoCAD 2026 

Hope this is helpful.

Kindly let me know if you need further assistance. 

Look forward to hearing from you soon