AutoCAD - use XREF to "split" a full drawing in different smaller detail files

AutoCAD - use XREF to "split" a full drawing in different smaller detail files

r.saccon3NLZ4
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AutoCAD - use XREF to "split" a full drawing in different smaller detail files

r.saccon3NLZ4
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Hello to everybody,
I'd like to ask you the support to make a new solution for my job.
This my request: I have a complete drawing, full of many drawing design inside (for example 10 details).
I need to have n. 10 dwg files with each detail in each single dwg file.
So:
- INPUT -> one "big" dwg with all details inside (10);
- OUTPUT -> 10 dwg files with one detail for each dwg file.
- REQUEST: link the big dwg file, where I make all the job and the updates I need to the details, to the other "output" dwg files.

Is there a way to do this?
Can I make this kind of splitting with the use of XREF?
Can I "XREF" (link) only some parts of the "big" drawing to the output dwg drawings?

Thank you so much if you can suggest me some solutions!

 

[ The subject line of this post has been edited to include the product name by @handjonathan ]

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ВeekeeCZ
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You can do that using XCLIP. But the other details would be just hidden. Still there but not visible. 

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r.saccon3NLZ4
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Not the solution I'm looking for... I'd like to have all the "children" details updated and indipendent from all the rest of the "parent" drawing.
Anyway thanks a lot
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ВeekeeCZ
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That could be the best option you can have. The only other option is copy-pasting.

You can submit HERE your idea that you want to have some sort of DATA SHORTCUTS (C3D thing) available in ACAD too.

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dbroad
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What I do:

  1. Wblock objects.  Be sure to name logically and to pick a logical local basepoint relative to the detail.  Some just use the WCS origin so they can pick the same point, when xattach but I prefer not.
  2. Open each wblocked drawing and clean up the detail.
    1. overkill
    2. scale so model elements are correctly sized using the relative scale option.
    3. check the dimensions to make sure measurement factors are correct.
    4. Choose an annotation scale appropriate for the detail.
    5. Further cleanup.
      1. Check layering.
      2. Autoconstrain, adjust dimensions, and delete constraints.
  3. Xattach the detail drawings and arrange. I suggest putting them on a layer for xrefs.

Doing it right takes a bit longer, but the details will be more lastingly useable.

Architect, Registered NC, VA, SC, & GA.
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pendean
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@r.saccon3NLZ4 wrote:
>>>...I'd like to have all the "children" details updated and indipendent from all the rest of the "parent" drawing....<<<

XREFs don't work like that: 10-separate DWG files from a master single file using XREF command simply means you create 10-empty DWG files, XREF then XCLIP from the master file each of your 10 details, then SAVE.
Each of your 10 DWG files is not standalone, it is still tied to the master file, because you stated you wanted "..I'd like to have all the "children" details updated..."

So... do you need 10-separate individual independent DWG files that are never updated from the master file?
or do you want to use XREF command?

Sadly you cannot have it both ways using AutoCAD.

Let us know.
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r.saccon3NLZ4
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The main aim I want to reach is to work only in the "parent" dwg and all the other "children" update automatically.
The other (strange) thing I'd like to have is to have ONE single detail each "child" drawing, without having all the details on every "children".
I know it's a little bit strange, but my clients want drawings in this way.
Thank you so much!

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Kent1Cooper
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That combination of operational conditions is not possible as AutoCAD currently works, I'm sorry to say.  You can have each "child" detail drawing Xclipped so that only the intended detail shows, or maybe you could do it with a complex Layer structure, with separate Layers for each detail's worth of content, and Layers not part of the particular detail frozen in each "child" drawing.  But if you want to do all adjustments to all the details only in the one "parent" drawing, then the entire "parent" drawing must be present [if perhaps suppressed in one way or another] via Xref in all the "child" drawings.

Kent Cooper, AIA
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pendean
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XREFs is what you are describing, but the 10-child files are always connected to the master file (as in you cannot email someone only of of the 10-child files or all 10-child files without the master).

So... how would you like to proceed in AutoCAD?
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