AutoCAD 2016

[GHASEM_ARIYANI]

hi

what is new feature  in autodesk autocad 2016? 

[Anonymous]

Everything works perfectly "as designed"

[m_kingdon]

From what I have read, I believe with 2016 Autodesk are going down the path of subscription only software. You will no longer be able to buy a version of AutoCAD and use it for many years. Instead you buy a license and keep getting the newest version as long as you maintain the license. Similar to the route Adobe and Microsoft have taken, although with them you can still buy standalone software like Premiere Pro, but standalone is expensive and works out very poor value.

For better or for worse, at least it will stop the issue of having people use different version of CAD and having to save drawings to an older format.

source: http://www.cgchannel.com/2014/10/autodesk-to-go-subscription-only-by-2016/

Also expect a new file format....

2004, 2007, 2010, 2013.....

[nestly2]

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m.kingdon wrote:

For better or for worse, at least it will stop the issue of having people use different version of CAD and having to save drawings to an older format.

source: http://www.cgchannel.com/2014/10/autodesk-to-go-subscription-only-by-2016

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I understood the original question to be a request for specific information about a version of AutoCAD that's not yet released, so as far as that goes, anyone that could answer that question is under a non-disclosure agreement prohibiting them from doing so.

With regard to the "subscription only" model, that doesn't necessarily change the issue of version incompatibility.  Currently, even the monthly desktop subscription plans include previous version rights, so that means even if it's a "new" subscription, the user could still download, activate, and use 2015, 2014, 2013 or 2012

[Anonymous]

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@m_kingdon wrote:

From what I have read, I believe with 2016 Autodesk are going down the path of subscription only software. You will no longer be able to buy a version of AutoCAD and use it for many years. Instead you buy a license and keep getting the newest version as long as you maintain the license. Similar to the route Adobe and Microsoft have taken, although with them you can still buy standalone software like Premiere Pro, but standalone is expensive and works out very poor value.

For better or for worse, at least it will stop the issue of having people use different version of CAD and having to save drawings to an older format.

source: http://www.cgchannel.com/2014/10/autodesk-to-go-subscription-only-by-2016/

Also expect a new file format....

2004, 2007, 2010, 2013.....

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I had no idea Autodesk was doing this.  Great information.  Thank you for sharing.

I'm definitely gonna past this along.

[BrianBenton]

Nothing has been released about AutoCAD 2016 yet. The new line of products typically come out at the end of Q1. Assuming the 2016 line continues with that trend we should hear something soon. 

For the licensing, the change to subsection licensing for stand alone products starts in February 2016. 

Here is a link to what Autodesk will do with thier Perpetual Licenses 

[nrz13]

For the past several years, Autodesk has released AutoCAD in the third or fourth week of March.  When that happens, the non-disclosure agreements will terminate and you'll see articles popping up on the web.

[Anonymous]

Maybe I'm reading this chart wrong, but it seems as though they conveniently left out the yearly subscription on the perpetual license in the first option, even though it is in the $4740.00 price:

http://www.autodesk.com/store/autocad/subscribe-or-buy

That first price of $4740.00 is a perpetual license with subscription. If your subscription is $545.00/year then you are up to $6375.00 after 4 years, which is less than the 4x1680.00 = $6720.00 for 4 year of desktop subscription. And every year after that you are only paying $545.00 vs $1680.00. Seems like a win-win for Autodesk and a lose-lose for the end user. Maybe I'm reading it wrong (but I don't believe so), but anyone even considering AutoCAD for a long term investment would be much better off buying a perpetual license with subscription before you no longer can in 2016.

[pendean]

Perpetual is better pricing, correct: but upgrading falls under the subscrption model moving forward, so they'll catch you sooner or later with those annualy payments.

[Anonymous]

I agree. If you ever need a new license once the perpetual purchase option goes away, you're stuck in the desktop subscription as you're only alternative. This is really going to hurt a lot of people financially in the future in my opinion. It's a shame and it's ridiculous that anyone (Autodesk) bothers to use the Microsoft Office concept as an example, when you can get Office for as low as $5.75/month. Office isn't going to make or break whether or not a small business can take on another AutoCAD seat, but $1700.00/month very well could.

[nestly2]

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stevev0983 wrote:

I agree. If you ever need a new license once the perpetual purchase option goes away, you're stuck in the desktop subscription as you're only alternative. This is really going to hurt a lot of people financially in the future in my opinion. It's a shame and it's ridiculous that anyone (Autodesk) bothers to use the Microsoft Office concept as an example, when you can get Office for as low as $5.75/month. Office isn't going to make or break whether or not a small business can take on another AutoCAD seat, but $1700.00/month very well could.

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 I agree that Perpetual w/ Maintenance Subscription is the best value over 4 or more years, but you lost me with the small business example.

Under a perpetual license agreement, if a small company wanted to add another AutoCAD seat, it would be a one time expense of at least $4195.   Under desktop license, you could obtain another full seat for an entire year for just $1680 if purchased as a annual contract (that breaks down to $140 per month).  If they didn't have that much capital on hand, or didn't know how long they might need the additional seat, they could go monthy for $210.  $210 per month is a is pretty small in comparison to the monthly wages of the operator (not to mention the hardware the operator will need to run the seat)  If you can afford the operator, I don't see the cost of the software as being prohibitive.

[pendean]

Office365 pricing is so low due to the very low volume of users: not a significant market share at the moment. There is no reason to believe once the boxed MSOFfice is removed from circulation that Office365 pricing will not be better aligned with the high price of the boxed versions.

Enjoy the cheap discounts with cloud-apps for thenext 2-5 years, then get ready to pay through the nose like with boxed software.

[vakhtang]

i liked your "just 1680" doll. We lived and worked happily on autocad 2010 for 5 years - untill we purchased 2015. with the perpetual license price of 4,200 and yearly subscription price of 1700  it means that we will now pay DOUBLE!!! because 1700/year equal 2.5 years or perpetual. so basically Autodesk wants us to pay double price. Big win for customers indeed!!!!

[Anonymous]

If you are looking for part time help or if it is a temporary seat, then the desktop subscription is a good deal, which is why they should keep both options available. I do know of someone in this exact situation where he was debating taking on another drafter and he went with the desktop subscription due to the high cost of entry for an entire new license. But now he is regretting it because the added seat has become permanent and he is either stuck in the desktop subscription or he threw away the money he already spent on it if he decides to just buy a perpetual license. It would have been nice of Autodesk to allow someone with a desktop subscription to convert it to a perpetual license at a discount, but the website is very clear that they do not allow this. With a program this expensive, it's never an easy choice, especially for very small companies.

[vakhtang]

yes, which is clearly - increase in price!!!!

i agree that they have to live both options available.

[dgorsman]

Not to mention professional fees and licenses, insurance, taxes, accountant(s), rent...  after everything else, software license costs are still a pretty small piece of the operating expenses.  If you don't know what your operating expenses are, there's bigger problems than trying to budget for another AutoCAD license.

[nestly2]

Not sure I understand..... If you purchased 2015 for $4200 (4195) then you have a new perpetual (permanent) license, so you can use AutoCAD2015 for as long as you want without paying Autodesk another cent.  If you anticipate a need to update to a newer version within the next few years, then add a $545 yearly maintenance subscription to your perpetual license before Feb 2016, and you'll be able to keep your perpetual license so you can update to the newest version anytime you wish.

Just to be clear, perpetual license do not expire on Feb 2016, it's just that you won't be able to purchase a new perpetual license... If you have one, it will still last forever, and you can even renew it, you just won't be able to start a new one after Feb 2016.

[nestly2]

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stevev0983 wrote:

.... which is why they should keep both options available.

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I don't disagree.  There is a reason I have a perpetual license w/maintenance subscripiton.  I would like to see it kept as an option both for myself, and for future new customers.

[vakhtang]

...which again means that i will spend extra 2000 doll by the time i'll get, for instance, autocad 2020, right? and i will get autocad 2020 for the price twice higher - in 5 years run - than i got 2015.

all these tricks to get few money from customer are not new, it was used since for as long as human society lived. As well as "sets" a.k.a. atudesk suits - with lots of unneeded programs that just hang out on my PC.

i am really dissapointed.

[pendean]

Perpetual License = Buy it, used it, keep it forever. Never upgrade it. Ever.

Upgrade: loss of perpetual license for reinstalls in the future (it got upgraded, license becomes invalid), tied into subscrption for as long as you pay. Stop paying and you can't move the license to a newer PC ever.

Rental: seems to be the way to keep costs down if you see a spike in workload that you feel will not be longterm. Find that sweet-spot and it's cheaper than both options above. Renting never affectes your perpetual license. Ever.

Running a business has never been cheap, still isn't: if it was, we'd all be business owners and not employees. The only thing that changed is those of us relying on software only got a lower cost of doing business compared to those folks that have to buy rigs/tools/machines to do their business.