Annotatives in Layout

[ВeekeeCZ]

Hello folks, fighting annotations for an hour... no clue what's going on.

I have a few annotative blocks in L1 layout (in the layout itself), and I want to copy-paste them to the L2 layout. L2 does not show them! It's obviously an annoscale issue.... what and where I need to set to see them?

Thanks

[cadffm · Accepted solution]

Hi,

annotation feature is not for Layout use, but this wasn't your question, so:

You blockreference supports up to 2 scales:

Your layouts are set to scale 1:100_1 - Standard is 1:1 (so we know someone  imported, renamed these layouts or the whole file)

So, annotation objects are visible if scale  1:1000 [1] or 1:1000[2] is current

OR IF ANNOALLVISIBLE is ON

[F1] AnnoAllVisible

"The ANNOALLVISIBLE setting is saved individually for model space and each layout. "

[ВeekeeCZ]

Thanks!

Those scales are just for MODEL, don't use them in a layout. So... it's ANNOALLVISIBLE that needs to be on in both layouts and wasn't.

It basically confirms what I thought -- I just applied it a bit inconsistently and hastily.

[ВeekeeCZ]

btw how do you get this dialog showing only assigned scales?

Second question.

If it wanted to assign 1:1000 [1] to the layout, how would I do that?

[cadffm]

Hi,

thats the dialog to set or remove scales from/to objects.

In english it should be: command objectscale

But I used the property window.

Mark object

Click the value of annotation scale,

Right of the value appears a button.

Your second Q:

Acad is not designed to do it,

but you can set it by 

Select the internal viewport which displaying the layout

or the same - by programming

Edit the first viewport in layout.

[ВeekeeCZ]

It behaves so weird. 

IMHO Main viewport should not be affected by the current ANNOALLVISIBLE setting and should always behave as is ON.

[cadffm]

>>"..ANNOALLVISIBLE setting and should always behave as is ON"

The whole annotation feature should be disabled in Paperspace

This is a good example of what happens when people program without knowing the program or how to use it.
However, problems can be overlooked and mistakes can happen, but that's inexcusable: ignoring the problem for 18 years.

[dbroad]

ANNOALLVISIBLE ON works for me in this particular situation:  When the viewport is set to a scale but some of the annotation objects have a annotation scale name that is different from the name of the selected viewport scale.  (That is, several annotation scales have different names but the same scale factor. ) If not, some text, dimensions, and blocks, don't show up at all that should show up.  I don't intentionally use different scale names but sometimes it happens.

If the modelspace is designed to support multiple annotation scales, ANNOALLVISIBLE should generally be off in layout viewports.

Before plotting, it is always wise to toggle the ANNOALLVISIBLE to ensure that everything you want to see is: 1)the right size, and 2)is visible. As you've experienced, it's terrible to send someone a plot with missing information as if you've forgotten to add it.

HTH

[ВeekeeCZ]

@dbroad 

Thank you for sharing your experience.