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4K, 3840 X 2160 resolution problem scaling in AutoCAD 2016

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Anonymous
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4K, 3840 X 2160 resolution problem scaling in AutoCAD 2016

We will be replacing all our CAD workstation this year including monitors supporting UHD (4k) resolution. We just had first one configured. And here is the problem – AutoCAD 2016 is not doing very good job scaling fonts, dialog boxes etc. “Start” screen is completely not able to scale in 4k resolution. We use 4K, 3840 X 2160 resolution (UHD), 60Hz on U28D590D - Samsung UHD 28” Monitor. Standard HD resolution (1080p) works perfect. Are you planning to address this in some future service packs or fixes?

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Message 61 of 145
nrz13
in reply to: R.Gerritsen4967

If you check out the AutoCAD 2017 System Requirements page, it appears not since they specifically mention not adjusting the desktop scaling past 125%.  If they can't work this out with a service pack and let a whole year go by without fixing this, the program is going to be way more outdated than it already is now.


Work:  AutoCAD 2022.1.3, Windows 10 Pro v22H2 64-bit, Intel Core i7-8700K, 32GB RAM, Samsung 960 Pro SSD, AMD Radeon Pro WX 5100, 3 Dell Monitors (3840x2160)
Home: AutoCAD 2022.1.3, Windows 10 Pro v22H2 64-bit, Intel Core i7-11700, 64GB RAM, Samsung 980 Pro SSD, NVIDIA Quadro P2200, Dell Monitor (3840x2160)
Message 62 of 145
pendean
in reply to: R.Gerritsen4967

R2017 is not high res capable either.
Message 63 of 145
pendean
in reply to: MichaelDrage

Solutions are posted in this long thread that you are posting it: scroll up, read and try them out.
Message 64 of 145
Anonymous
in reply to: nrz13

What a terrible new! I wrote to Aiutodesk 4 weeks ago but nobody answered me.. I hope you all will write too! On my hand I'm going to write again again and again!

Message 65 of 145
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Dear Pendean I tried your solution ( the one borned  for Adobe) but it doesn't work. I have Windows 10 and a 4k resolution screen. when I set the system like you seggested and I open Autocad, immediately a window appears that alerts you of an error. Then the program starts but everything is so blurred that I preferred to return at the precedent situation and to give up my wonderful 4k resolution. Now I use a Full HD one with 125% Desktop Scaling.. I know.. this isn't THE solution...

Message 66 of 145
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous


@Anonymous wrote:

preferred to return at the precedent situation and to give up my wonderful 4k resolution. Now I use a Full HD one with 125% Desktop Scaling.. I know.. this isn't THE solution...


I don't see the draw to have a 4K screen...But then I just do mechanical design.

Am I missing something by not having hi-res piping?

Message 67 of 145
nrz13
in reply to: Anonymous

4K screen has two advantages:  either more screen real estate for your drawings, toolbars, other applications, etc. (for larger displays) and/or much higher and sharper resolution for more accurate linework and text display, which is easier on the eyes, along with looking more polished (eye candy) – when the program is designed to handle it properly, that is.  Most of us don't like to look at big chunky squares to represent a diagonal line or a circle when we know it should be a line or a circle.


Work:  AutoCAD 2022.1.3, Windows 10 Pro v22H2 64-bit, Intel Core i7-8700K, 32GB RAM, Samsung 960 Pro SSD, AMD Radeon Pro WX 5100, 3 Dell Monitors (3840x2160)
Home: AutoCAD 2022.1.3, Windows 10 Pro v22H2 64-bit, Intel Core i7-11700, 64GB RAM, Samsung 980 Pro SSD, NVIDIA Quadro P2200, Dell Monitor (3840x2160)
Message 68 of 145
Anonymous
in reply to: nrz13


@nrz13 wrote:

4K screen has two advantages:  either more screen real estate for your drawings, toolbars, other applications, etc. (for larger displays) and/or much higher and sharper resolution for more accurate linework and text display, which is easier on the eyes, along with looking more polished (eye candy) – when the program is designed to handle it properly, that is.  Most of us don't like to look at big chunky squares to represent a diagonal line or a circle when we know it should be a line or a circle.


So nothing (IMHO) that will help me be more productive in any of my work tasks... And if your not used to chucky squares, you must be new to autocad.

 

Like I said My Opinion.

 

I'm guessing it would be nice having it, but if it doesn't make me faster or more money. It's like a silk dress on a pig.

Message 69 of 145
nrz13
in reply to: Anonymous

No, I'm just old enough to remember how pixelated it used to be and the improvements in the line/circle/arc resolution have been welcome.  No, not critical, but I'd say reducing eye strain is beneficial and productive.

I'm more interested in 4K/5K for the screen real estate.  I'd like a 40" monitor to use instead of messing with dual monitor setups.


Work:  AutoCAD 2022.1.3, Windows 10 Pro v22H2 64-bit, Intel Core i7-8700K, 32GB RAM, Samsung 960 Pro SSD, AMD Radeon Pro WX 5100, 3 Dell Monitors (3840x2160)
Home: AutoCAD 2022.1.3, Windows 10 Pro v22H2 64-bit, Intel Core i7-11700, 64GB RAM, Samsung 980 Pro SSD, NVIDIA Quadro P2200, Dell Monitor (3840x2160)
Message 70 of 145
Anonymous
in reply to: nrz13

I couldn't see going back to a single monitor for any reason.

 

And I can't see our company replacing 65+ users with dual 27" widescreens with anything 40" let alone 4K.

Message 71 of 145
nrz13
in reply to: Anonymous

Large 4K/5K screens are still expensive, but the price will come down.  I'm not sure why you'd want to have your screen split across multiple monitors unless you didn't have a good tiling application for snapping windows to.  I think most video drivers provide the option for custom window tiles and snaps, although I use MaxTo because I've found it more suited to my needs.


Work:  AutoCAD 2022.1.3, Windows 10 Pro v22H2 64-bit, Intel Core i7-8700K, 32GB RAM, Samsung 960 Pro SSD, AMD Radeon Pro WX 5100, 3 Dell Monitors (3840x2160)
Home: AutoCAD 2022.1.3, Windows 10 Pro v22H2 64-bit, Intel Core i7-11700, 64GB RAM, Samsung 980 Pro SSD, NVIDIA Quadro P2200, Dell Monitor (3840x2160)
Message 72 of 145
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

I'm afraid we're speaking defferent languages.. my laptop has the 3k resolution.. so the screen is too small for it and I must enlarge it.. and autocad isn't able to enlarge properly!!!!on the other hand photoshop, office, acrobat can manage very well this situation.. 

Message 73 of 145
nrz13
in reply to: Anonymous

Backnblack is debating why there is even a need for 4K support, but it's a moot point because in many cases that's the only option for many high-end laptops – you know, the kind you need to run AutoCAD well.

Ultra-high-res displays has been the way the industry has been shifting for years.  It's been a clear path, but Autodesk has refused to support it for whatever reason.  And now that it's becoming mainstream, they've trapped their customers between having poor hardware or poor software.


Work:  AutoCAD 2022.1.3, Windows 10 Pro v22H2 64-bit, Intel Core i7-8700K, 32GB RAM, Samsung 960 Pro SSD, AMD Radeon Pro WX 5100, 3 Dell Monitors (3840x2160)
Home: AutoCAD 2022.1.3, Windows 10 Pro v22H2 64-bit, Intel Core i7-11700, 64GB RAM, Samsung 980 Pro SSD, NVIDIA Quadro P2200, Dell Monitor (3840x2160)
Message 74 of 145
Anonymous
in reply to: nrz13

Using a Quatro K5000, the way I split my views the monitor break is pretty much ignored by me.

I use a small ribbion but 95% of my commands are keystrokes.

 

I would rather AD have Autocad use multiple processors....but that'll never happen.

Message 75 of 145
Anonymous
in reply to: nrz13


@nrz13 wrote:

Backnblack is debating why there is even a need for 4K support, but it's a moot point because in many cases that's the only option for many high-end laptops – you know, the kind you need to run AutoCAD well.


I don't work off a laptop.... I do teach Autocad off of one and have no problems. But that is a teaching enviroment and not a production one.

The only reason I even posted in this thread is to see the reasons users have in needing this feature so badly.... Plus it's slow here at work Smiley Very Happy

Message 76 of 145
nrz13
in reply to: Anonymous

All of my commands are keystrokes (using the GUI only for pulldowns: layers, viewports), but I use the screen real estate for other things, like the Properties and Layers palettes.  More multi-core support would be great but seems unlikely given the way the program is structured.  Autodesk spent time playing around arbitrarily with the interface for the last few versions; that would have been the time to make actual functional improvements to support all resolutions.


Work:  AutoCAD 2022.1.3, Windows 10 Pro v22H2 64-bit, Intel Core i7-8700K, 32GB RAM, Samsung 960 Pro SSD, AMD Radeon Pro WX 5100, 3 Dell Monitors (3840x2160)
Home: AutoCAD 2022.1.3, Windows 10 Pro v22H2 64-bit, Intel Core i7-11700, 64GB RAM, Samsung 980 Pro SSD, NVIDIA Quadro P2200, Dell Monitor (3840x2160)
Message 77 of 145
Anonymous
in reply to: nrz13

Wish I could keep the properties widow open... the delay it causes drives me nuts.

 

And yes AD should have worked on performace before eyecandy...

Message 78 of 145
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

I use keystrokes too but, when I'm not in office and I need the laptop,I want to feel free to use every window or palette I'd like without the problem of huge text or ridicolous small one! AD is not a free software and it should not ignore every kind of problem!

Message 79 of 145
pendean
in reply to: Anonymous

No worries, the "adobe" workaround is not perfect, but I find works best for me. The error message is because the tip forces a display: I can live with it as I can't wait for AutoCAD2018-19-20 to fix the problem.
Message 80 of 145
Anonymous
in reply to: pendean

Altough... with the solution you suggested, your lines, your text appear  so badly defined, don't them?

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