4K, 3840 X 2160 resolution problem scaling in AutoCAD 2016

[Anonymous]

We will be replacing all our CAD workstation this year including monitors supporting UHD (4k) resolution. We just had first one configured. And here is the problem – AutoCAD 2016 is not doing very good job scaling fonts, dialog boxes etc. “Start” screen is completely not able to scale in 4k resolution. We use 4K, 3840 X 2160 resolution (UHD), 60Hz on U28D590D - Samsung UHD 28” Monitor. Standard HD resolution (1080p) works perfect. Are you planning to address this in some future service packs or fixes?

[Anonymous]

We will be replacing all our CAD workstation this year including monitors supporting UHD (4k) resolution. We just had first one configured. And here is the problem – AutoCAD 2016 is not doing very good job scaling fonts, dialog boxes etc. “Start” screen is completely not able to scale in 4k resolution. We use 4K, 3840 X 2160 resolution (UHD), 60Hz on U28D590D - Samsung UHD 28” Monitor. Standard HD resolution (1080p) works perfect. Are you planning to address this in some future service packs or fixes?

[nrz13]

If you check out the AutoCAD 2017 System Requirements page, it appears not since they specifically mention not adjusting the desktop scaling past 125%.  If they can't work this out with a service pack and let a whole year go by without fixing this, the program is going to be way more outdated than it already is now.

[nrz13]

If you check out the AutoCAD 2017 System Requirements page, it appears not since they specifically mention not adjusting the desktop scaling past 125%.  If they can't work this out with a service pack and let a whole year go by without fixing this, the program is going to be way more outdated than it already is now.

[pendean]

R2017 is not high res capable either.

[pendean]

R2017 is not high res capable either.

[pendean]

Solutions are posted in this long thread that you are posting it: scroll up, read and try them out.

[pendean]

Solutions are posted in this long thread that you are posting it: scroll up, read and try them out.

[Anonymous]

What a terrible new! I wrote to Aiutodesk 4 weeks ago but nobody answered me.. I hope you all will write too! On my hand I'm going to write again again and again!

[Anonymous]

What a terrible new! I wrote to Aiutodesk 4 weeks ago but nobody answered me.. I hope you all will write too! On my hand I'm going to write again again and again!

[Anonymous]

Dear Pendean I tried your solution ( the one borned  for Adobe) but it doesn't work. I have Windows 10 and a 4k resolution screen. when I set the system like you seggested and I open Autocad, immediately a window appears that alerts you of an error. Then the program starts but everything is so blurred that I preferred to return at the precedent situation and to give up my wonderful 4k resolution. Now I use a Full HD one with 125% Desktop Scaling.. I know.. this isn't THE solution...

[Anonymous]

Dear Pendean I tried your solution ( the one borned  for Adobe) but it doesn't work. I have Windows 10 and a 4k resolution screen. when I set the system like you seggested and I open Autocad, immediately a window appears that alerts you of an error. Then the program starts but everything is so blurred that I preferred to return at the precedent situation and to give up my wonderful 4k resolution. Now I use a Full HD one with 125% Desktop Scaling.. I know.. this isn't THE solution...

[Anonymous]

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@Anonymous wrote:

preferred to return at the precedent situation and to give up my wonderful 4k resolution. Now I use a Full HD one with 125% Desktop Scaling.. I know.. this isn't THE solution...

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I don't see the draw to have a 4K screen...But then I just do mechanical design.

Am I missing something by not having hi-res piping?

[Anonymous]

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@Anonymous wrote:

preferred to return at the precedent situation and to give up my wonderful 4k resolution. Now I use a Full HD one with 125% Desktop Scaling.. I know.. this isn't THE solution...

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I don't see the draw to have a 4K screen...But then I just do mechanical design.

Am I missing something by not having hi-res piping?

[nrz13]

4K screen has two advantages:  either more screen real estate for your drawings, toolbars, other applications, etc. (for larger displays) and/or much higher and sharper resolution for more accurate linework and text display, which is easier on the eyes, along with looking more polished (eye candy) – when the program is designed to handle it properly, that is.  Most of us don't like to look at big chunky squares to represent a diagonal line or a circle when we know it should be a line or a circle.

[nrz13]

4K screen has two advantages:  either more screen real estate for your drawings, toolbars, other applications, etc. (for larger displays) and/or much higher and sharper resolution for more accurate linework and text display, which is easier on the eyes, along with looking more polished (eye candy) – when the program is designed to handle it properly, that is.  Most of us don't like to look at big chunky squares to represent a diagonal line or a circle when we know it should be a line or a circle.

[Anonymous]

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@nrz13 wrote:

4K screen has two advantages:  either more screen real estate for your drawings, toolbars, other applications, etc. (for larger displays) and/or much higher and sharper resolution for more accurate linework and text display, which is easier on the eyes, along with looking more polished (eye candy) – when the program is designed to handle it properly, that is.  Most of us don't like to look at big chunky squares to represent a diagonal line or a circle when we know it should be a line or a circle.

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So nothing (IMHO) that will help me be more productive in any of my work tasks... And if your not used to chucky squares, you must be new to autocad.

Like I said My Opinion.

I'm guessing it would be nice having it, but if it doesn't make me faster or more money. It's like a silk dress on a pig.

[Anonymous]

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@nrz13 wrote:

4K screen has two advantages:  either more screen real estate for your drawings, toolbars, other applications, etc. (for larger displays) and/or much higher and sharper resolution for more accurate linework and text display, which is easier on the eyes, along with looking more polished (eye candy) – when the program is designed to handle it properly, that is.  Most of us don't like to look at big chunky squares to represent a diagonal line or a circle when we know it should be a line or a circle.

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So nothing (IMHO) that will help me be more productive in any of my work tasks... And if your not used to chucky squares, you must be new to autocad.

Like I said My Opinion.

I'm guessing it would be nice having it, but if it doesn't make me faster or more money. It's like a silk dress on a pig.

[nrz13]

No, I'm just old enough to remember how pixelated it used to be and the improvements in the line/circle/arc resolution have been welcome.  No, not critical, but I'd say reducing eye strain is beneficial and productive.

I'm more interested in 4K/5K for the screen real estate.  I'd like a 40" monitor to use instead of messing with dual monitor setups.

[nrz13]

No, I'm just old enough to remember how pixelated it used to be and the improvements in the line/circle/arc resolution have been welcome.  No, not critical, but I'd say reducing eye strain is beneficial and productive.

I'm more interested in 4K/5K for the screen real estate.  I'd like a 40" monitor to use instead of messing with dual monitor setups.

[Anonymous]

I couldn't see going back to a single monitor for any reason.

And I can't see our company replacing 65+ users with dual 27" widescreens with anything 40" let alone 4K.

[Anonymous]

I couldn't see going back to a single monitor for any reason.

And I can't see our company replacing 65+ users with dual 27" widescreens with anything 40" let alone 4K.

[nrz13]

Large 4K/5K screens are still expensive, but the price will come down.  I'm not sure why you'd want to have your screen split across multiple monitors unless you didn't have a good tiling application for snapping windows to.  I think most video drivers provide the option for custom window tiles and snaps, although I use MaxTo because I've found it more suited to my needs.

[nrz13]

Large 4K/5K screens are still expensive, but the price will come down.  I'm not sure why you'd want to have your screen split across multiple monitors unless you didn't have a good tiling application for snapping windows to.  I think most video drivers provide the option for custom window tiles and snaps, although I use MaxTo because I've found it more suited to my needs.

[Anonymous]

I'm afraid we're speaking defferent languages.. my laptop has the 3k resolution.. so the screen is too small for it and I must enlarge it.. and autocad isn't able to enlarge properly!!!!on the other hand photoshop, office, acrobat can manage very well this situation.. 

[Anonymous]

I'm afraid we're speaking defferent languages.. my laptop has the 3k resolution.. so the screen is too small for it and I must enlarge it.. and autocad isn't able to enlarge properly!!!!on the other hand photoshop, office, acrobat can manage very well this situation.. 

[nrz13]

Backnblack is debating why there is even a need for 4K support, but it's a moot point because in many cases that's the only option for many high-end laptops – you know, the kind you need to run AutoCAD well.

Ultra-high-res displays has been the way the industry has been shifting for years.  It's been a clear path, but Autodesk has refused to support it for whatever reason.  And now that it's becoming mainstream, they've trapped their customers between having poor hardware or poor software.

[nrz13]

Backnblack is debating why there is even a need for 4K support, but it's a moot point because in many cases that's the only option for many high-end laptops – you know, the kind you need to run AutoCAD well.

Ultra-high-res displays has been the way the industry has been shifting for years.  It's been a clear path, but Autodesk has refused to support it for whatever reason.  And now that it's becoming mainstream, they've trapped their customers between having poor hardware or poor software.

[Anonymous]

Using a Quatro K5000, the way I split my views the monitor break is pretty much ignored by me.

I use a small ribbion but 95% of my commands are keystrokes.

I would rather AD have Autocad use multiple processors....but that'll never happen.

[Anonymous]

Using a Quatro K5000, the way I split my views the monitor break is pretty much ignored by me.

I use a small ribbion but 95% of my commands are keystrokes.

I would rather AD have Autocad use multiple processors....but that'll never happen.

[Anonymous]

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@nrz13 wrote:

Backnblack is debating why there is even a need for 4K support, but it's a moot point because in many cases that's the only option for many high-end laptops – you know, the kind you need to run AutoCAD well.

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I don't work off a laptop.... I do teach Autocad off of one and have no problems. But that is a teaching enviroment and not a production one.

The only reason I even posted in this thread is to see the reasons users have in needing this feature so badly.... Plus it's slow here at work

[Anonymous]

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@nrz13 wrote:

Backnblack is debating why there is even a need for 4K support, but it's a moot point because in many cases that's the only option for many high-end laptops – you know, the kind you need to run AutoCAD well.

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I don't work off a laptop.... I do teach Autocad off of one and have no problems. But that is a teaching enviroment and not a production one.

The only reason I even posted in this thread is to see the reasons users have in needing this feature so badly.... Plus it's slow here at work

[nrz13]

All of my commands are keystrokes (using the GUI only for pulldowns: layers, viewports), but I use the screen real estate for other things, like the Properties and Layers palettes.  More multi-core support would be great but seems unlikely given the way the program is structured.  Autodesk spent time playing around arbitrarily with the interface for the last few versions; that would have been the time to make actual functional improvements to support all resolutions.

[nrz13]

All of my commands are keystrokes (using the GUI only for pulldowns: layers, viewports), but I use the screen real estate for other things, like the Properties and Layers palettes.  More multi-core support would be great but seems unlikely given the way the program is structured.  Autodesk spent time playing around arbitrarily with the interface for the last few versions; that would have been the time to make actual functional improvements to support all resolutions.

[Anonymous]

Wish I could keep the properties widow open... the delay it causes drives me nuts.

And yes AD should have worked on performace before eyecandy...

[Anonymous]

Wish I could keep the properties widow open... the delay it causes drives me nuts.

And yes AD should have worked on performace before eyecandy...

[Anonymous]

I use keystrokes too but, when I'm not in office and I need the laptop,I want to feel free to use every window or palette I'd like without the problem of huge text or ridicolous small one! AD is not a free software and it should not ignore every kind of problem!

[Anonymous]

I use keystrokes too but, when I'm not in office and I need the laptop,I want to feel free to use every window or palette I'd like without the problem of huge text or ridicolous small one! AD is not a free software and it should not ignore every kind of problem!

[pendean]

No worries, the "adobe" workaround is not perfect, but I find works best for me. The error message is because the tip forces a display: I can live with it as I can't wait for AutoCAD2018-19-20 to fix the problem.

[pendean]

No worries, the "adobe" workaround is not perfect, but I find works best for me. The error message is because the tip forces a display: I can live with it as I can't wait for AutoCAD2018-19-20 to fix the problem.

[Anonymous]

Altough... with the solution you suggested, your lines, your text appear  so badly defined, don't them?

[Anonymous]

Altough... with the solution you suggested, your lines, your text appear  so badly defined, don't them?