Viewing AEC objects when opening a CAD file created in Civil3D (or similar)

Viewing AEC objects when opening a CAD file created in Civil3D (or similar)

jamesQG2BQ
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Viewing AEC objects when opening a CAD file created in Civil3D (or similar)

jamesQG2BQ
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I often need to open a CAD file which has AEC objects (surface labels, spot heights, manholes etc).  I don't need to edit or do anything to those AEC items, I only need to make 2D edits to the sheet (text boxes, add circles, add poly lines etc - real basic stuff that AutoCAD for Mac can do) and replot the drawing. 

BUT AutoCAD for MAC (2025) does not even show the AEC objects - just a clumsy AECC object box in the place of rendering the file useless  - meaning I can't even view the CAD file, let alone make a NON AEC edit.

 

There surely must be an object viewer enabler - I have achieved this on AutoCAD (or AutoCAD LT) previously - but damned if I can find it for the Mac version. Seems like a fundamental thing for Autodesk to provide so that people can at least view files with AEC objects in them.

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maxim_k
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Hi @jamesQG2BQ ,

 

Unfortunately there is no object enabler for Civil 3D objects for AutoCAD for Mac.

 


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paullimapa
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One alternative to consider is to invest in Parallels and you can install and run the Windows version of AutoCAD on your Mac. Then you can continue to use all the features you’re used to available only on Windows. 


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jamesQG2BQ
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Alas Autodesk does not support ARM processors yet, rendering all modern ARM computers (windows or Mac) useless if you need to use AutoCAD.

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moneumiko
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It DOES run on mac through Parallels.

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pendean
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@jamesQG2BQ wrote:

..rendering all modern ARM computers (windows or Mac) useless if you need to use AutoCAD.


Your 'belief' is very old, read this from Autodesk if you need the tech side of the solution

https://www.autodesk.com/support/technical/article/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/How-to-run-Windows...

 

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jamesQG2BQ
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That link from 2023 doesn't necessarily solve the problem and might now be out of date.


I will expand. At the time of the original post, on an ARM computer you cannot run X86 versions of Windows - even in a virtual machine. Since Civil 3D (and some other autodesk software) only works reliably on X86 this is a problem. I have tried fusion (didn't work at all) and parallels, after wasting half a day I could not get Civil 3D to work as running x86 binaries relied on emulation that was "a bit flakey". I inadvertently bought a surface tablet that ran on ARM, but it didn't work on that either so I had to return it. This is all well outside my skillset, so if I can't figure it out in half a day then it probably is not worth bothering with from a business perspective.  I read very recently that last month (Jan 2025) in V 20.2 parallels introduced x86 windows support. So maybe if I can find half a day to try it I might.  From what I have heard, if Civil 3D works the performance via emulation  is reportedly sooooo bad you are best buying an old windows machine instead. So Yes It is a very old belief that is still (mostly) correct - so far Autodesk has not developed their software for ARM architecture. 3rd parties seem to be filling the gap via virtualisation, but it seems that it is yet to be practical for everyday users and no company I have spoken to is willing to risk/spend on the required IT support and 3rd party virtualisation software subscriptions. Maybe last months V20.2 parallels (for business or pro subscriptions) will finally fix that - yet to be seen. Since it seems that PC manufacturers a have figured out that x86 is not very efficient and that ARM is a better solution Autodesk need to keep up so they offer a good user experience to justify that price of their software. There are more and more manufacturers or windows devices that no longer offer X86 CPU versions, or at least there are massive compromises with their X86 offerings - eg current generation Surface products and many laptops - certainly all the ones that offer decent real world battery life which is the biggest problem with running CAD software on windows laptops.


So the choices are:

 

For Mac - 1) use an old Mac with an intel processor and run Windows via bootcamp (note apple started the transition to ARM M series in 2020 and stopped making intel (X86) computers in 2023). Might be OK if you want to buy a cheap old intel desktop Mac and dedicate to CAD booting via bootcamp (which is not flawless), but if like me you need a laptop this is useless as apple moved their laptops to ARM nearly 5 years ago and I don't want an old intel laptop with 3 hour battery life while running CAD anymore. or 2) spend time trying to get the new Parallels v20.2 to work. If anyone has done so successfully I would love to hear about it - and see a support document for it so I can try it.

 

For Windows - ensure you buy a windows device with X86 processor.  Not an issue if you have a desktop X86 windows machine (although I don't anymore as Autodesk software was the only thing that needed x86 and when my 13th Gen intel CPU died I gave up on x86 since it doesn't even seem to work reliably in a desktop machines these days). Noting that modern battery efficient Snapdragon laptops do not support X86 versions of windows so won't run a LOT of autodesk software natively and I am yet to see reliable evidence that emulation works - so far I have only received advice from users to avoid it as it is unreliable and not performant. 

 

I live in hope that Autodesk develop their software to support ARM - that is in essence what is needed. . 

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jamesQG2BQ
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Awesome if it does. 


Can you expand pleas?

Is this using Civil 3D (or similar - aka CAD) on an x86 version of windows in parallels, Or is it running CAD via emulation on an ARM version of windows (via virtual machine) via emulation layers.


How reliable is it? I keep seeing hints that it should work. But alas so far I have not received sure word from anyone that it really works in the real world - or how to actually do it. Everyone I have spoken to in person has said "nah man - just get a windows on intel - emulation/virtualisation is too janky". Don't buy snapdragon or M series Mac if you need to use CAD.  Since meeting Autodesk minimum specs is expensive (more expensive than my M4 series Mac) I really don't want a second device JUST for CAD, hence I am looking for a solution.

 

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moneumiko
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Sorry for late response.
I'm not sure what you are asking - Parallels is a virtual machine software, that runs ARM Windows.
As for Civil 3D, I can't tell unfortunately as I don't use it (I'm on AutoCAD LT - 2D only).

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