How can I add separate wire numbers to wires that ACADE considers in the same network?

[samuel_elliott6ZHZL]

Hello!

I have a wire network consisting of one main feed, a length of busbar, and several subfeeds. To do this, I represented the busbar as another wiretype. I would like to give the main feed and subfeeds separate wire numbers/descriptions but since ACADE considers everything I've put here as wires in the same network, it won't let me change the wire numbers of any of the subfeeds to anything different from the main feed.

Attached is a sample image of what I am trying to do.

[vladop · Accepted solution]

Does the splice solve the problem?

AutoCAD Electrical 2025 Help | To Insert Splices | Autodesk

[samuel_elliott6ZHZL]

This works, but is there by chance a more elegant solution for something like a right-angle connection? 

[vladop]

These are attribute requirements for splice symbols:

X?WIRE01, X?WIRE02
Attribute for wire annotation. The "?" digit is the wire connection direction digit; 1, 2, 4, or 8.

TERMDESCxx
Attribute for wire connection description (128 characters maximum).

ACE_FLAG
Attribute with a value set to 1 to identify a splice symbol.

Modifying existing splice symbol, you can try to create a new splice symbol that looks like a right-angle connection. It must have an ACE_FLAG attribute set to 1.

I think a third Attribute for wire annotation X?WIRE03 should be added. The question is how it would work, but you can try.

I think some people use Terminal Symbols with a number change, which can also be modified to look like a right-angle connection.

[vladop]

Here are some links that MIGHT HAVE something to help you - I haven't read them in detail.

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[arshdeepsingh404]

Hi @samuel_elliott6ZHZL 

Like @vladop mentioned, the terminal symbol with wire change might be alternative solution.

All the terminals that are labelled "with Wire Number Change" will cause the wire number to change. Similar to the splice symbol.

You can use them either as is or open the symbol and reverse engineer it to convert the geometry to a right angle symbol like you want.

I have also seen some people converting the terminal symbol into a dot.