Edit parts in the Assembly

Edit parts in the Assembly

galashkina
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Edit parts in the Assembly

galashkina
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The database contains the ABB CR-U120AC3L (U3E-UH) assembly, which consists of four parts.

 

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I can make changes to ABB CR-U120AC3L.

 

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How can I make changes to other details?

  • CR-U91
  • CR-U3SM
  • CR-UH
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jseefdrumr
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They should show up in edit mode, unless your search term was too restrictive. If your search is for just the part number of the main assembly, that's why the sub parts are not appearing.

 

It looks like if you begin again, using the search term "ABB CR-U", and then go into Edit Mode, everything you want to see should pop up. You'll have to sort through a longer list of parts to find what you want but this is the only way I know of that will find all the subassemblies.



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Well, I'm not sure, but my theory is that you're not seeing the subassembly parts in Edit Mode because your search term in the Catalog Browser is too restrictive.

 

If I were in the catalog, and seeing the exact screenshot that you posted, here is what I would do:

1. Exit edit mode.

2. Now, look at the search bar in the top of the catalog....it probably says 'ABB CR-U120AC3L', or something similar. Regardless of what it says, change it to say only 'ABB CR-U'. Hit enter to start this new search. You should now see more of this type of component. But, you won't see the subs as individual item until you return to Edit Mode.

3. Now go back to edit mode. All subassemblies that start with 'CR-U' should now be available for editing.

 

Did that work?



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galashkina
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As you can see, it doesn't work.

 

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Your video is marked as 'private'. We can't view it 😞



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jseefdrumr
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OK let me try and explain this another way.

 

When you do a search in the catalog browser, it shows everything that matches your search term except for one thing: individaul subassemblies. You can't see individual subassemblies unless you're in Edit Mode. But, what's visible in Edit Mode is directly affected by what that search term was. So, if the part number you used for a search term is different from the subassembly part number, it won't show.

 

In other words, the reason you didn't see any subassemblies when you went into Edit Mode, is because the items available to you are limited by whatever the search term is. Since your search term is the full part number of the main assembly, and since none of the subassemblies have that as their part number, you didn't see them when you entered Edit Mode.

 

This means it can sometimes be difficult to find a subassembly so it can be edited.

 

But, if you know the exact part number of the subassembly, you can get to it if you enter it alone as the search term directly. Keep in mind that until you go into Edit Mode, nothing will show up. But as soon as you hit that button, the item will appear.

 

Try following these steps:

1. Open the catalog browser and go to CR (control relays).

2. Do a search for ABB CR-U3E. Use that exact text string.

3. When you hit enter, nothing will show up.

4. But without doing anything else, hit the Edit Mode button.

5. Look who showed up!

 

Now you can edit that one subassembly. Save it and exit Edit Mode.

 

Next, do a search for CR-U3SM. Again, there shouldn't be anything there, until you hit the Edit Mode button. Once you do, though, the subassembly part should become available for editing.

 

Note that I have a completely default ABB catalog...I literally have never used an ABB component so I've never edited this part of my catalog. My catalog has these subs listed and I was able to find them using the steps I laid out in this reply. If this still doesn't work for you, I'll take the time to make a screencast tomorrow when I'm back at my regular workstation.



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galashkina
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 Thank you for your support!

I can actually find and edit ABB CR-U3E ABB-U3SM.

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galashkina
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Surprisingly, yesterday's loss is today!

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galashkina
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I got it I gave up too soon. Despite the empty lines after filtering, I need to continue to believe in the victory and click the "Edit..." button. And then the desired information appears.

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galashkina
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I created an assembly of three parts:

 

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But I don't have contact numbers saved.

What could be the reason?

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jseefdrumr
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Sorry Lyidmila, I couldn't reproduce what I saw in the video. I tried several subassemblies at random and was always able to save a pin list and/or coil pin list. I could also do it on one of my custom parts in the catalog.

 

I'm not sure how, but could there have been a misstep in setting up the catalog entry somewhere? I don't know what that could be but I'm at a loss to explain what you're seeing.

 

I've noticed before that I sometimes have to restart ACADE after changing a database, especially the footprint lookup database. It's something to try, at least. And I'd definitely be sure to try that before taking more drastic measures like a reset to defaults or something.

 

@rhesusminus, if you have a chance can you weigh in on this one?



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Do you have a secondary database as well? It might be that it's getting the information from the other database.

 


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galashkina
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Try to enter:

in the ASSEMBLYLIST fields:

1SFNO10820R1011

1SFNO10820R3311

 

in the ASSEMBLYCODE field:

1SFNO10820R1011;1SFNO10820R3311

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galashkina
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@rhesusminus , thank you for your support!

I only use one database in the project.

 

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I have AutoCAD Electrical Sequoia installed. Maybe this creates a conflict? To remove?

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The part numbers for this non-reversing contactor didn't exist in my catalog. I had to make fresh entries for that and the subassemblies.

 

I was able to define a pin list for all.

 

I have no clue what's happening on your end 😞



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I'm not sure it would make a difference, but when I defined my pins for the contactor, it didn't yet have the subassemblies attached. I set pins for all components before making any entries in ASSEMBLYCODE or ASSEMBLYLIST.



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