Displaying duplicate multi conductor through terminal with same terminal number on different sheets

Displaying duplicate multi conductor through terminal with same terminal number on different sheets

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Displaying duplicate multi conductor through terminal with same terminal number on different sheets

adelinelcy
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Hi there,

 

I would like to display the same terminal of a Wago 280-833 ( 4 conductor through terminal block) on different sheets in my drawings - is there a best way to do this please? 

 

Many thanks Adeline

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ramesh.kambang
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I think this is possible can you share us a sketch of your drawing - how you would like to seem them on different sheets?

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adelinelcy
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Hi Ramesh,

 

I have attached two screen captures.

In this example there are two cable harnesses, which are connected to Terminal #1  Wago 280-833.

 

The cable harness are on different sheets. 

 

Cheers, A

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I recommend to insert 2+ child marker (marked in RED) on the sheet where you want to show conductor color. As this is child cable marker you need to link it to the parent cable marker (+CABINET-CBL4/rd) by clicking Project. Once it is paired with parent, conductor colour may not appear (sometimes). You need to add manually rd. but it will show parent's tag +CABINET-CBL4. 

Once they are linked, when you update the parent symbol, acade automatically updates linked child marker. Hope this helps

 

child marker 2+.png

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rhesusminus
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AutoCAD Electrical does not support drawing terminals in a distributed manner.
I've seen two solutions.

1. Drawing the terminal as a multi-line terminal, with each connection point of the terminal as a "level".

2. Using custom destination arrows that LOOKS like a terminal. It's connected to the other terminal via a source arrow.

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This is done through a process called 'terminal association'.

 

Whenever you have a terminal that has multiple wire connections, and when you must show those wire connections on different sheets, those terminal symbols must be associated together. In ACADE, associating terminal symbols together tells the software that the symbols, rather than being two separate terminals, are actually two connection points on the same terminal. To do this:

 

1. Go to a drawing that has that terminal in it. It doesn't matter which drawing it is, as long as it has one representation of the terminal in question.

2. Open the Edit Component dialog for the terminal. Look in the upper right area for a button that says 'Add/Modify'. Clicking on that button will take you to a new dialog.

3. In this dialog, you can associate two terminals from different drawings together. The list at the bottom shows all terminals. The upper right area shows the terminal you're active in right now. Pick a terminal from the list to associate.

 

If the two terminals are on the same drawing, there's a tool to use that is easier. It's called "Associate Terminals" and its command line entry is _AEASSOCTERMINAL. It's found at Schematic>Edit Components>Associate Terminals.

 

Also, if you make use of the Terminal Strip Editor, you can associate terminals as needed inside of that interface. However, this can be trickier.

 

Keep in mind that for this to work, your terminals have to be properly set up, i.e. with the proper number of wires per connection, how many levels exist, etc. I would strongly advise reading up on these topics in HELP.

 

A couple more things to note:

*Your terminal is internally jumpered, meaning all 4 connection points are tied together. This is known as a multi-level single-circuit terminal. In cases like this, it doesn't matter which of the 4 available levels you assign a particular terminal to.

*In other applications, multi-level terminals support 2 or more circuits. In these instances, it often matters which level a wire number goes on, and greater care must be taken when associating terminals.

*If your terminals aren't properly defined in the catalogs and in the dialog boxes, the TSE may add more terminals to your terminal strips without you wanting it to. This is because the TSE evaluates the number of wire connections in a terminal strip against how many connection points are available. If there are more wires than connection points, it adds terminals as needed. If this keeps happening, then check your settings on the terminal to make sure you're allowing the right number of wires per connection, and that you have the correct number of levels for that terminal.

 

 



Jim Seefeldt
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