3D solid to Mass Element to Wall - Cannot use endcap

3D solid to Mass Element to Wall - Cannot use endcap

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3D solid to Mass Element to Wall - Cannot use endcap

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Hello all,

 

I have some 3D drawings with solid elements.

To convert the walls (that are currently 3D solids) into walls (that AutoCAD recognizes as wall) I have to take the following steps:

 

1. Convert the elements from 3D solids into Mass Elements.

2. Convert Mass Elements into Walls.

 

So far so good.

 

Now the problem: I am trying to add endcaps to the newly converted walls but I keep getting this error:

'Wall does not have valid components for end caps'

 

Does anyone know the reason why this error appears?

 

Converted elements cannot have endcaps?

 

Thank you in advance,

Adrian

 

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David_W_Koch
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What Wall Style did you choose when you did the final conversion?  If the Wall Style only has a single component, and you try to edit the endcaps in place, the command will exit with a message stating, "Wall does not have valid components for endcaps."  You need at least two components in a Wall to be able to apply a Wall Endcap.


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Thank you for your answer, David.

 

When making the final conversion I can only choose Standard, thus single component. (See attachement 'Wall Styles')

Is there any way to add more styles in there?

 

If I change the Wall Style after the conversion is made (with 'Standard') then I end up with another wall next to the one just converted (See attachement 'Wall after conversion') instead of converting the style of the one that I wanted.

 

The converted walls cannot be modified either, cannot be lengthened, shortened or change the height.

 

What am I doing wrong?

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David_W_Koch
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This is not something I do very often; on taking a second look, I can offer the following observations:

 

1.  You can convert directly from a 3D Solid to a Wall; no need to go to a Mass Element intermediary.  (You can in ACA 2016, anyway.)

2.  When you convert a 3D Solid or Mass Element to a Wall, you will only be offered single-component Wall Styles as choices for the initial style.

3.  The 3D Solid  or Mass Element is applied to that single component as a Body Modifier, and replaces the component.  (For a 3D Solid, ACA will convert it to a Mass Element, which is then applied as a Body Modifier.)  This is why making any changes to the length, height or width (if the component is variable width) has no effect on what you see in the drawing.

4.  If you then change the Wall Style to a multi-component style, you are not getting a second Wall next to the original, what you are seeing is that the Body Modifier is being applied to one of the components in the new Wall Style and the remaining components are behaving "normally".  I am not certain if this is always the case, but in my brief experimentation today, the Body Modifier was applied to the component with the highest index number.  Also note that, depending upon where and how you defined the Baseline during the conversion process, the Body Modifier may cause the effected component to overlap the other components.

5.  In my limited testing, the component to which the replacement Body Modifier was added when changing the Wall Style to a multi-component style was not affected by the assigned endcap.

 

Given the above, how you should proceed will depend on the nature of the 3D Solids you are converting, the type of Walls you need, and whether Wall Endcaps.  If the 3D Solids are rectangular prisms defining a "normal" Wall, you may be better served by simply redrawing the Walls, tracing along the 3D Solids, rather than converting them.  If you are using the 3D Solids to create Walls with sloped vertical faces, or with non-parallel opposite faces, then you may need to live with the limitations.


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cesar_mayorine362SG
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Hi,

 

It is possible to convert solids into walls using .net

 

Best regards

 

César

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