How to create custom Wall style

[Anonymous]

I'm trying to make a custom Wall tool with preset settings. I have created a custom Wall style, but found out that Styles don't include all the Wall parameters I need; many of them (like Wall width, length and justification) are only found on the Wall Properties window.

So how could I make a custom Wall tool that has both customized properties (from Properties window) and also a custom Style?

Thanks.

[David_W_Koch]

If your Wall Style is composed entirely of fixed-width components, then you can set the Width of the Wall in the Wall Style.

Even if you need to have a variable-width component as part of your workflow, you can set up a Wall Tool on a tool palette and preset the Width in the tool properties.  As seen in the image below, you can also set the Justification, along with all of the other listed Properties.  You cannot pre-set the Wall Length, however.  What are you modeling with Walls that would want you to be able to preset a Wall length?

[Anonymous]

I was not aware of the Tool Properties window- thank you. As for the Wall length, I just thought it could be included for the sake of saving a complete set of customizations.

I have found all I needed, except for Openings. They don't seem to have a way to save their appearance - like the settings for Display component and Fill Type, which could come in handy for subsequent Openings. I even tried that via Style Manager but couldn't find Openings on the list at all.

[CADmonkey_UK_Building_Services]

Can't quite remember the procedure, but I used Openings for Builders Work holes and you can do quite a bit with them. With Custom Property Sets I had them beautifully scheduled, too.

Acad can make all sorts of opening for curved doors, etc. perhaps what you want is a custom door or even a custom wall panel without any infills, just a frame. You need to read up on Custom Profiles (as in 2D polylines). I seem to remember messing around a lot with Cut Planes too.

[Anonymous]

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What I need is the the functionality of the Object Display window from the image above.

But when I tried it (even with overrides on), I saw it only applied to the current object, not all Openings. It has to behave like a Style, for all objects of its type.

[CADmonkey_UK_Building_Services]

An Opening won't be a Style. Depending what you are trying to do, a custom door, window or curtain wall would help.

What exactly are you doing with all these holes?

You could try the Old School way: Set 1 up, copy it, etc. You can also get clever with Layer controls.

[Anonymous]

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@CADmonkey_UK_Building_Services wrote:

An Opening won't be a Style.

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@CADmonkey_UK_Building_Services wrote:

What exactly are you doing with all these holes?

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It's not a question of quantity; I don't presently need a lot of them; I was just wondering: "Why not have Styles?"

Thinking theoretically:
Openings, just like Walls, Windows, Stairs etc., have properties whose values need to be adjusted time and again, even on a per-case basis. Again like them, one would rather just select a Style, rather than select Property 1, modify it, select Property 2, modify it and so on, possibly every time a new one is drawn. Therefore it seems incongruous that many other architectural elements got Styles, and not this one.

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@CADmonkey_UK_Building_Services wrote:

Depending what you are trying to do, a custom door, window or curtain wall would help.

You could try the Old School way: Set 1 up, copy it, etc. You can also get clever with Layer controls.

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If a one-click, Styles-style solution is not available, I will try these ways. Thanks.

[CADmonkey_UK_Building_Services]

An opening is just a lack of wall or it's an unglazed window.

Most of the 'Why/Why not?' questions get resolved or at least put into context when you consider practical application instead of abstract situations. AutoCAD isn't 3D Max, it's a Construction Tool.

If you make a hole in physical wall made of single or double layers of brick, or timber framed dry-lining, then you have to do more than just make a big hole. You have to frame it, or structurally support it. If you need yo spec it so highly, just create a custom Door or Window Style called 'opening' that will look exactly like whatever you are capable of.

The holes I specify are rectangular or circular and are nowhere you would see them, and there are 100s of them.  Still, if you really wanted to make a 6-foot wide opening shaped like a hamburger or a big explosion you could still do it. Wall Body Modifiers or Interferences might do it.

[David_W_Koch · Accepted solution]

Openings do not have Styles.  You either set the drawing default display settings to show Openings the way you want to show them (and then all of them that do not have object-level overrides will look that way), or you can set an object-level override on each Opening.  As @CADmonkey_UK_Building_Services noted, you can set an object level override on one Opening, and then copy it to additional locations and have the overrides apply to the copies as well.

If you use Openings a lot, and have a need to show different ones in different ways, you can set up custom Door Styles to function like Openings, but as style-based objects, can have style-level display overrides that vary from style to style. This blog article explains how to do so, with the goal of matching the display features available in Openings.  If you use the Schedule Feature for both Doors and Openings, and want them in separate schedules, you will need to look into Classifications, so that you can easily distinguish between your Door Doors and your Opening Doors.