New empty drawing

[Sebastian_Eiche]

HI,
I think many of you know the following problem:

• You had a detail drawing dwg and made a few details or cut views.
• after a few extra cutview, you think: "maybe it's better to use a new drawing"
• So it's no problem to move the details to another drawing...if you have one

Until now the most people create a new drawing, move the detail to this drawing and then delete the not needed detail

So here my idea: there should be the possibility to create a new empty drawing. 

As you see, I know a workaround, but a little button for this would be really nice.

[acbsdesign]

Hello,

If this is already submitted before-please disregard.

Very often we need to send a section view to a new drawing.

Currently we place blocks for both section line and section/detail title manually.

It will be great if we have one option for section views-the one we already have,

and another option with section titles as shown on the attached screen shot.

Regards,

Ilko Dimitrov

[haedicu]

Thank you Ilko for this idea. We will keep it as a tracked item for future improvements on Advance Steel Drawing adjustment.

best regards

Udo

[Sebastian_Eiche]

or maybe much better:

the possibility to move a detail to a new Detaildrawing 😃

In the document manager a new entry in the contextmenu:

[Anonymous]

great point dear

[AntDrt]

Hi,
For the second idées, you can do it now.
Use copy/paste from windows, on the original drawing and passé on your new drawing.
Then use "update detail" Button on your panel to "register" the détail on the new drawing.

Labels, dimensions (from advance steel) Will be conserved.

But now you can only do this for camera détails.

Hope it help.

[cclemmercadman]

When a shop built assembly gets very large; for example, a tube frame with several attaching parts, Advance Steel creates all of the cut sections on one drawing. In doing this, in most cases, 70%-90% of the details are off of the drawing.

 In my 20+ years of detailing experience, I have always set up drawings in the same fashion.

Erection Drawings (or GA Drawings) & Shop Drawings

1.  Create floor plan (or main view)

2.  Create elevation detail (or view derived from main view)

3.  Create major section details (or secondary view derived from main view or elevation detail)

4.  Create minor section details

5.  Create plan details

6.  Create additional section views from minor section details and plan details

All of my details are created using either an elevation arrow, a section marker, or a detail marker to guide you through the drawings for a for a very productive workflow.  You can look at the plan, elevation, or section view, locate the section marker, elevation marker, or plan detail marker and easily locate the detail number and drawing number the detail is on; elevation, section, or enlarged detail.

Currently Advance Steel does not offer the function of detail labeling or even details page per page. Which creates a ton of extra work for the detailer creating manual labels and titles and markers for these labels and titles. Which always brings us to user or input error.

For shop drawings this will be most helpful. As of now, in order to create proper drawings for a large frame assembly, I have to use cameras and manual labeling. This is a lot of extras work.

Advance Steel can make all detail views similar to camera views. A staring plane with an X/Y bearing and the ability to enter a front and rear depth of the detail. The only additions AS will have to make is the ability to have that detail hold an ascending  place number for the number of details on the sheet, and the sheet number in which the detail is located. And the ability to move that detail to any other sheet and have the detail marker change to the new corresponding detail and sheet number.

example 1/E2 is the first detail on sheet E2 & 15/12 is the fifteenth detail on sheet 12.

[Anonymous]

 I also have a similar detailing strategy. I know you can create section views on the sheet views with ascending order but I agree that you should be able to place the detail/s on another sheet because most of the time you don't have enough room to place all the sections on one sheet. 

[haedicu]

We will be further evaluating this one in the near future and will keep you posted if we need any additional feedback or clarification. Please feel free to continue voting on this one as it will help us with the continued evaluation.

[rahulmhaskar20]

Hello People,

Can we have a feature to move cut sections or projection views to another layout. Usually I have to create many cut sections of complex assemblies. but these cut sections do not fit in a single page. Would be too helpful.

Thanks.

Rahul.

[acbsdesign]

Hello,

Sending of section view to a new drawing during manual section view creation should automatically renumber view number and drawing location upon changing the drawing number and or renumbering views (details)

This is done in Revit-and it works great. 

Regards

[iwafb]

There have been several requests for the ability to split assemblies over several sheets. All asking for slightly different processes, but all have the same theme in common. That is, not all assemblies can be detailed on a single sheet. IMO, functionality to make this happen easily and efficiently is a must. And yes, the ability to send sections to a different sheet (must be numbered sequentially) and create blank sheets seems like a great place to start...

[acbsdesign]

@iwafb

This can be done if we place the large assembly on one drawing to get the piecemark and BOM, with only overall dimensions, and  2 or 3 parts of the assembly  send to 2 or 3 new dwgs using the call-out detail.

Regards

[iwafb]

Thanks @acbsdesign

You're right, although call-outs don't allow you to provide running (absolute) dimensions back to the start of the assembly, don't number sequentially across sheets and need the main view to be replicated on each drawing, but that's a whole other can of worms...

Reading my post, what's in my head didn't really translate to what I wrote. Yes, we can split assemblies now, but IMO the process is cumbersome and should be a lot easier.

[acbsdesign]

@iwafb

We work under pressure, we can be excused sometimes not to post exactly what we think 🙂

If I need to split now an assembly I use a dwg style similar to detail view for erection dwgs with dim's turned off, and make a start work point for each drawing dimensions. 

As as start I use the default assembly dwg for BOM and to show 'key plan' where are the 2 or 3 areas of the assembly shown in a larger scale.

And yes, this should be available in Advance to be done MUCH easier, as it is done in Revit: show  area of a model or a drawing, send it to a new dwg, and all details on the new dwg are numbered automatically, and destination dwg in call-out changes upon dwg number change automatically.

Probably we have to start doing what the Revit users do-"We want this and this that is available in the other software"

Advance is getting more and more stable-good for us-I updated a complex assembly last night with some 30-40 dimension chains, only one moved, but with no dimension lines snapping to other points. Great!.

[jess_neal]

@pawelpiechnik ACCEPTED 6 YEARS AGO AND STILL NOT IMPLEMENTED