Anchor Bolts Macro / Base plate macro Improvements

[acbsdesign]

Currently when creating base plate with macro we do not have the option to manipulate the following parameters:

1. Grout thickness below leveling plate

2. Projection amount-top end of AB sticking above the t.o.concrete

3. If hooked-Hook size-developers-please make sure you know how the hook and the embedment is measured per AISC.

4. Number of nuts /washers/plate washers-sizes of plate washers/washers/nuts on bottom end

5. Number of washers/nuts below base plate

6. Number of washers/plate washers-sizes/nuts above base plate

We have the drawing style for AB elevation, but we are not able to model exactly what we want-does not make sence.

The way currently anchors are built in Astorbase is not working well. Even the anchor bolt names are entered  wrong by the developers. 

There should be a macro to treat anchor as an anchor (round bar, theraded bar) and nut, washers and plate washers attached to it, manipulated from base plate macro and explodable in BOM.

Anchors shall be able to be detailed as MP with parts attached to them.

[acbsdesign]

Hi Dumitru,

What does 'Future Consideration’ Mean?

Someone is scratching his head and saying: 'We will see..., Hope you will forget about this.'

Now, let me make this clear-I am not going to forget.

After the 2018 version is released, if labels move during  update, if dimensions continue to move / snap to weird points, and if there isn't a clear time frame about one universal macro for all threaded rods, rods, with nuts and washers and plate washers-I am calling the executive of Autodesk.

I thorough report with dates of bug submittals, broken link between developers and end users, and lack of such a basic macro will be submitted to Mr. Autodesk for review.

I have already the support of many my colleagues who think Advance should be more stable, and an Anchor / threaded rod / rod macro has to be done.

Ilko Dimitrov

[Anonymous]

Also now the ammount of washers and nuts are limitted to 6. this should be more.

[Anonymous]

I agree, there is very little control over the use of anchor bolts in Advance Steel. It would be very helpful if there was at least a place on the baseplate layout page to enter an embedment depth and the extension above the baseplate. Then let the macro do the math and figure the length of the threaded rod by adding the extension, the embedment and the baseplate thickness. And have the location of the nut and washer be where it is supposed to be, on top of the baseplate. This would greatly improve the usefulness of Advance Steel.

[bukko]

We desperately need an efficient anchor bolt/bolt macro.

Cmon folks........  The current way of creating new anchors or modifying existing ones is so convoluted.  A real time waster.

Regards

Craig

[acbsdesign]

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/advance-steel-ideas/anchor-bolts-macro-base-plate-macro-improvements/...

Craig, We had an idea posted, please see the link above.

Hopefully this will get done soon, if not in Advance-we may see it done in Revit instead....

Ilko Dimitrov

[Anonymous]

I would like to have some information what the status is from this wish.

It is very quite in autodesk land. 

Can you please let us know something?

regards

[ETheuring]

One recognises the state, nevertheless, in the header.
The state is "Future Consideration".
Only if the state "Implemented" is called, the wish is implemented.

Regards

[acbsdesign]

We pay for Revit improvements now, not for Advance Steel.

[Anonymous]

Both products have similar problems. Programmers may not be able to
accurately mimic a real world design workflow. If that is the case they
should be honest and tell end users what kind of problems they encounter and
if it is even possible to accomplish what we are asking. For the amount of
money we pay for these programs, that should be the least we get in return.

[Anonymous]

Both products have similar problems. Programmers may not be able to
accurately mimic a real world design workflow. If that is the case they
should be honest and tell end users what kind of problems they encounter and
if it is even possible to accomplish what we are asking. For the amount of
money we pay for these programs, that should be the least we get in return.

[bukko]

They better not do it in Revit first!

[Anonymous]

Hello Everyone,

I hope this helps some people. I struggled with it for a long time. Here is my fix for above and it works pretty good. (Not saying this method is preferred because the Anchor Rod dialogue builder should be extended more.) For anchor bolts I developed my own Threaded Rod section by copying the Round Bar table in the Microsoft Access Database and doing a find and replace for RB with THR. Then I could create all of my own Anchor Bolts, headed or bent (use a poly beam for bent). Then I use the custom connection macro in larger models for my column base plates, leveling plates and anchor rods. After doing this I can just do my E plans as normal and have separate shop drawings for my anchor rods. You can only access the MS Access databases Pre-2018 because they switched to SQL... I also used the MS Access database to make all my own bolts such as Stud Anchors, Titen HD Concrete Screws, Flat Head Screws, etc..

[acbsdesign]

@RyanLyford

This is one way to do them, but it is a 19th century way, and today is 08/03/2017.

And we pay for Revit to gets developed.

Ilko Dimitrov

[Anonymous]

Hello,
we have some implementations/issues highlighted a long time ago.
I think that a customer begin the building from this joint and this should be perfect.

1) IMPORTANT FEATURE In this joint we can inser the "washer plates" only on one side. Please add the possibility to insert them upper, below or both sides. Please look the picture below.

2) CRITICAL ISSUE If the "Leveling plate" have a gap between the base plate major than the distances set on the anchors, the holes on the "leveling plates" disappers! Please look the picture below.

3) CRITICAL ISSUE If I insert the galvanised holes on the stiffeners, the macro create HOLES. These holes are nearest than the edge of the stiffener and conseguently the NC/DXF files are always wrong! These features could be as "Circular cuts" and not "Holes". 

4) IMPORTANT FEATURE Insertion of the grout hole also on the leveling plate. Please look the picture below. This hole should have the same option than the grout hole for the base plate.

5) NICE IMPORTANT (USEFULL) FEATURE Insertion of some triangular shapes around the leveling plate contourn. They would be polycuts (not holes) .They would be insert by three options: At the middle of the edges of the leveling plates // At the middle of the flange/web of column // Offset from the middle of the edges of the leveling plate. Please look the picture below. When the builders put the leveling plates, they could be rotated and then create many problems later.

Please take care these request because they are very very important.
Thanks for understanding.

[Anonymous]

Abbiamo bisogno di inserire barre filettate saldate ad una contropiastra che poi sarà annegata nel calcestruzzo e piastre di regolazione.

[bukko]

Hard to believe that this request for an anchor bolt macro has been ignored for literally years now. So pathetic!!

I work in SDS2 and Tekla and they both have excellent anchor bolt macros. WTH Autodesk??

Disappointed,

Craig

ECMS

[michaelaC4UXJ]

We have since abandoned the implementation of "Advanced" Steel. One of the updates they forced on us overwrote all the coding and customization we worked on for two years. I HIGHLY suggest using any other software. Too much time wasted in getting this program to work. It is written in multiple languages from around the world. Nothing is consistent. Improvments are never made.

Flame on!

[zachc1]

Never mind. I see now that the "US Threaded Anchors" type has the leveling nuts like I need.

Was an option to add leveling nuts to the anchors below the base plate incorporated into the base plate macro? This would be a really nice feature. I cannot find it.

Thank you