Workflow for design of steel framed building

[Anonymous]

Hello forumers and autodesk experts.

Almost every steel framed building/structure consist of concrete elements (foundations, slabs, staircases etc) and steel frame (beams, columns, bracings etc). For exemple in Tekla it is possible to get drawings for all elements from one model.

So my question is what is the fastest and most convenient workflow for modeling such building if I will use Advance Steel and Advance Concrete?

I think a little about it by myself and will discribe some thoughts. As I know it is possible to model some concrete elements in Advance Steel. So I can model it there with steel frame then export RC to Advance Concrete and design it. It is fine, but if I made changes in shape of elements in Advance Concrete how can I automaticaly change it in steel model? Also, is it possible to connect steel and concrete models in one file to see both (may be xref or something else) excluding any import/export?

So may be autodesk experts have any ideas or ready-made solutions. I will be realy appreciate to hear it.

Best regards to all!

[Anonymous]

No ideas or solutions? 😞

[crydee-AG1]

Hi,

If you use the Advance Export, Import and Synchronise commands to share data between Advance Steel and Advance Concrete via SMLX files the Synchoronise tool will update one model based on a new export from the other.

[Kirk_bailey]

Although this may not be at your disposal,I highly reccomend the Revit to Advance Steel workflow, even if it's just a demo for now. 

The interchange is a lot smoother and understandable,plus, there is a free dedicated Revit plugin that will let you do 90% of the design process for the structure & concrete leaving only the detailing process left. 

[yurikim]

Thank you for your posting @Anonymous

Good suggestions, @crydee-AG1 and @Kirk_bailey!

I am adding this comment as I've found a AU class that might help to resolve your question:

http://au.autodesk.com/au-online/classes-on-demand/class-catalog/2014/advance-steel/fb6278#chapter=0

Sample project in this class is only for steel structure, but if you have RC parts and some architectural elements, I would recommend to use Revit. 

Please feel free to add comments or PM me if you have more questions. 

[Anonymous]

Thank You for response!

Using of export/import/synchronization become very uncomfortable for large models, specially in case of simultaneous work under RC and steel design. What about connecting AS and AC models in one to see RC elements in AS (for example to connect floor beams to RC staircase) and to avoid export/import after every change in AC model? Is it possible?