AS2021 Railing Post connection angle post + plate with bolts

[B.Bevelander]

I'm currently working on a railing where the post is an angle L80x8 on the outside of an UNP180. Client is asking me to keep a 10mm gap between the Angle and Beam for a spacer plate, yet no such option seems available when the post is aligned on either sides.

Hence I tried using the Post Connection of a Plate with bolts, yet that only connects the plate to the Beam, and doesn't add the Angle to the bolted connection.

I also tried using the 'Add object to Connection' option, yet that doesn't seem to work in an existing connection.

Does anyone have any idea how to solve this issue?

[JW_Lotz]

We use side mount angle stanchions daily. We created a custom connection that welds the plate to the flanges of the beam and bolt the angle to the plate. Belief you can create it in the same way for the back of the channel.

[B.Bevelander]

In your situation, the plate is welded to the beam. In my situation the plate is a spacer plate and thus the bolt needs to be able to pass through the angle, spacer plate and beam at the same time. Currently I circumvented it by exploding the railing and using the 'Add Object to Connection' feature for each angle.

Just hoped it was incorporated into the connection vault.

[JW_Lotz]

Hi @B.Bevelander 

See attached a example of a custom connection that I made, If I understood your scenario correctly and a video of how it works.

[B.Bevelander]

That's indeed the connection I'm looking for. Sadly its a custom connection and thus not incorporated into the Railing Connection correct?

[JW_Lotz]

Edit the bolt size and plate in the file I gave you as per your needs.

Copy it in file location below: (Note use your language installation, We use GBR)

C:\ProgramData\Autodesk\Advance Steel 2022\GBR\Shared\ConnectionTemplates

Use custom connection from Advance Steel Tool Palette:

[B.Bevelander]

I get an error trying to import your Connection:

[JW_Lotz]

I ll make a short video how to create the connection it is very easy.

[JW_Lotz · Accepted solution]

Hope this helps.

Place your channel and angle in positions needed.

Add the plate

Bolt the channel, plate and angle together.

Create custom connection using two beams.

Just select the plate and bolts

Create naming you want to be prompted before use.

Save file in location showed.

Close file it needs to be closed before you can use it.

Use connection and save time 🙂

[B.Bevelander]

Your angle sticks below the top of the Beam, yet by default, when using the Railing setup, it doesn't. Would this still work?

Will it elongate the Angle until the bottom of the beam?

[JW_Lotz · Accepted solution]

Hi @B.Bevelander 

In the Macro we use top mount with the offset.

Then we lengthen the stanchion with the shorten at UCS command:

But in your case you can also use the macro.

For some reason it work to the back of the web but can't use it to the toes of the flanges.

[B.Bevelander]

Very well, that will work then 🙂

Also in your last image, you can see that it only puts the holes in the plate and the web of the beam, for it put a weld on the plate and the angle used as the post. That's what I was referring to in my first post.

[JW_Lotz]

Glad you got a solution.

Its just weird that one can create impractical connections using the macro.

The holes in the stanchion would be great in your case.

And creating the plate on the flange toes would be great in our case.

For the meanwhile we will use custom connections.