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CAT 2.0 or a new equivalent Character Animation Toolkit

CAT 2.0 or a new equivalent Character Animation Toolkit

Based on this thread, CAT as it currently stands won't be receiving any new major updates or new features. This is very unfortunate because CAT is a great concept and it's extremely powerful and there's nothing else really like it on the market. There are some 3rd party tools for 3ds Max such as InstantRig and LH Auto-Rig that replicate the modular rigging of CAT, but they don't have the extensive animation tools. Likewise, most other 3d packages don't really have an equivalent--Cinema 4d has CMotion but that doesn't have all the other great features like foot placement, motion extraction node, etc.

 

The problem with CAT is that it's a bit outdated. It's buggy in places and can cause crashes. Some things are counter intuitive--for example, Motion Extraction Node is a broken mess unless you select the pelvis and enable "Additive to Setup Pose" in the Link Info, then it magically works for the most part. The interface is dated and clunky. CAT could use additions like an equivalent to Biped's Motion Mixer--manually blending animation layers in CAT is well and good but it's not the same as a timeline editor. CAT can also be slow when working with multiple characters.

 

So my idea is, if it isn't practical to give current CAT a major overhaul, then build a new version of it from the ground up. Completely new codebase. Something that basically does the exact same thing as CAT and has similar features (CAT motion layer, adjustment layers, motion extraction, etc) but does so with a fresh, clean, and modern codebase that can be maintained and regularly updated. Something that can have a slick new interface that meets the needs of modern animators. Something that can take the lessons learned from CAT and Biped and expand on them and improve them. Something that can be designed from the ground up for modern hardware and make use of multi-core processing or even GPU processing.


One benefit is that this could be a way to unify the character animation systems of 3ds Max and streamline the workflow and interface. Right now it's disjointed, fragmented. First you have the regular bone system which has a bunch of tools. Then you have Biped which has its own set of tools. And then you have CAT, which also has its own set of tools. But then they sometimes share features/concepts using their own implementations (animation layers vs biped layers vs CAT layers). This makes animating in 3ds Max a bit rough or confusing for newer and younger users since there's so many systems to learn, each with their own pros and cons.

 

Another benefit is that this could provide a framework to more easily add other modern features later down the line in future updates. For example, maybe the new tool could get built-in lip sync in a future update. Something similar to FaceFX? What about something like Clovis Gay's F.A.S.T. plugin for 3ds Max? Maybe the tool could get a node-based scripting system like Houdini to allow for procedural animations beyond CAT motion layer. Maybe a built in crowd system? Maybe the ability to script AI so animated characters can "react" to stuff without the need for manual keyframing? What about a timeline editor like the one I suggested here?

I'm just spitballing of course, but you get the idea--stuff like this could potentially be added in future updates, which may or may not be practical with current legacy CAT.

 

So to summarize, make a brand new rigging/animation tool, CAT 2.0 or some other name, built from the ground up to take all the good stuff and lessons learned from CAT, Biped, and bone system, and which can be updated regularly. One centralized system to rule them all, which can be the sole focus for future development. 

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Anonymous
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Good night, everyone! I've been working at 3ds Max for a long time, mainly using it to create resources for the UE4 engine, and here are my thoughts on the available character animation tools. I would really like to see some kind of consistent and stable animation system for creating characters in 3ds Max. Of all these systems, I like CAT animation the most because of its layer system. Unfortunately, CAT has problems using it. Failures happen for any reason. For example, try animating a character, and then make a copy of this layer, application failure is guaranteed. I want update this tool as soon as possible!!! Please, support us!!!!

Anonymous
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Good afternoon, everyone!! I've been using Cat in 3ds max for like a lot. The Cat tool is outdated compared to other tools. I would like to see new features in it. So add something new to make people interested. We are waiting for updates!! Thank you for attention!!

Anonymous
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Good day, everyone!!

I've been working with CAT in 3ds max for a long time. At the moment, the current functions are not enough. I would like to use this product from a new perspective. I think this can be achieved with the help of new updates.
I hope you agree with this too. Go votes, please!!!!

Anonymous
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Hi, everyone!! Take a moment your attention, please!!!

You've probably heard of CAT animation. I am very rather with these tools. I've been using it for quite a long time. But I would like something fresh in it. Let's update this tool together, you may vote and write comments, please!! Thank you, for your attention!!

 

Anonymous
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Good day!!

You are probably familiar with CAT animation. A very cool tool. But for a long time it has not been updated in one place. I would like it to be further promoted. With your help, we will be able to update this tool. Support us, please!!!!

Anonymous
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Hi guys!I wanted and hoped for real updates to C.A.T functions.
I have been working with this program for 5 years now.
I love CAT and have been using it for a long time in all my animation work, but it really needs to be redone and updated!

Anonymous
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Good morning, everyone!!

If you are familiar with CAT animation, you know what problems there are. I guess we all want updates. Let's all do this together so that in the future there will be new functions. Everyone is waiting for CAT 2.0!!! Go votes and write comments!!!

Anonymous
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Hello everyone! In my experience, 3DS Max is a user-friendly and super program. CAT is a great animation system. But it seems to me that the  CAT feature is in need of an update right now. So vote for this idea!!!

Anonymous
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Hello to all.
To be honest, I support this update. I've been doing animation for 6 years now. I know this needs a little change.

 

Anonymous
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Hey! I recently started using this app. And I support this update. Because this convenience is needed for everyone.

Anonymous
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Hi, guys!!

I've been using CAT animation for five years. For so many years, this function has remained unchanged. I believe this feature needs updating. If you read what they promise us, you will definitely like it. I think CAT 2.0 is the best solution. Let's support this together. It will take a minute of your time. Thank you!!

Anonymous
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Many young guys are interested in animation. Once upon a time I was also interested in this area.
When I first used the 3DS MAX, I found it difficult. But it turns out that this is not the case.
I taught how to use the CAT function.Of course, this feature gives us a lot of possibilities.
But this CAT needs to be updates and develops.Updates gives us new masterpieces.

Anonymous
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Hi everyone! I've been working with 3DMax for 5 years now. I agree that the CAT feature is deprecated. it is very buggy and slow. It would be cool if we could add new features or create a new version of it from scratch. It would be very cool!

Anonymous
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I have been using this program for several years and it looks great when the muscles are stretched and deformed, so I ask you to develop it further

Anonymous
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I love working with CAT. Because it is of high quality and I save time. But if you update this application then it will be great!

 

Anonymous
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WOW... This is amazing idea!For me, creating animation is a separate art form. I support this opinion.If you do everything that is said in this idea then 3DS MAX  will conquer the market!Please update

Anonymous
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I have been using this program for 8 years. During this time I have learned a lot. I can fully say that CAT is a very effective and wonderful program. But everything has its drawbacks. So I fully agree that it needs to be updated.

Anonymous
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My job is to create animations. I tried a lot of the program. For example, Maya and Blender, 3DS Max, etc.
The most convenient and understandable of them is 3DS Max.I always use CAT. Because this is very definitely to me.
If there was an update, I would be glad!

Anonymous
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Hello everyone! I have been working with 3DMax for 4 years. And I completely agree with the opinion of this person. Because it is almost impossible to work when the program is buggy, slows down or can lead to crashes. CAT is a really good and useful tool. update it as soon as possible.

Anonymous
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Thanks to CAT, I created a game. And thanks to it, the running and jumping animations are very professionally created. I'm sure I can create even more wonderful things if you update it.

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