Replacing 3D Orbit

[Anonymous]

We are only working with 2D drawings at the moment so 3D orbit is worse than useless. How can I change the Shift-then-middle-mouse-button to activate the orthogonal pan (middle-mouse-button-then-shift) instead? For AutoCAD 2015.

[paullimapa]

You'll have to go into the CUI to make the change:

CUI

On left window, scroll down to Mouse Buttons > Button 3: Transparent Orbit

On the right window, change the Macro from ^P'_3DORBITTRANSPARENT ^P to ^P'Setvar Orthomode 1 '-PAN ^P

While you are at it, change the Command Name & Command Display Name to match.

See attached.

The drawback with this macro is that it will turn ON the current Orthomode setting.  If it was off before, it will not set this back to off.

[christina.davis]

Hi Kyle, 

Were you able to test Paul's suggestion? Making the changes he suggests in the CUI usually works to change the mouse setting. If not, you may need to check your Mouse settings, through Windows. If you have an advanced mouse it may have its own settings that override anything set in other programs. 

Let us know what you find. 

Thanks 🙂

[Anonymous]

I put in the changes you suggested and now if I hit Shift before the middle button nothing happens when I move the mouse. If I hit the middle button first I can still get the ortho pan. An improvement to useless. Any other things to try?

I have a logitech M510 with the middle button option set to middle button click running on Win 7 x64.

[christina.davis]

Hi Kyle,

Check the setting for MBUTTONPAN. If it's set to 1 try setting it to 0. From the Logitech website it looks like the M510 can use Logitech Setpoint for customiztion. If it's not already installed, I would suggest loading it and trying out the different options, including the Application Specific settings. 

Customizing the M510 mouse with Logitech SetPoint software

Thanks 🙂

[Anonymous]

I use both the PAN and ORTHO PAN. Can you get both functions to work from just one middle button? The mouseware is application aware, but I'm not familiar with getting it to change response according to keyboard input. If you can't make the mouse both application and keyboard aware then the solution has to take place in AutoCAD. 

I just tried changing MBUTTONPAN to 0 and clicking the middle button just brings up a menu, it doesn't move anything in any way with that setting. 

[christina.davis]

Hi Kyle, 

I was able to get Pan with middle button click and Ortho Pan with shift+mouse-click, in the method Paul's post describes. With MBUTTONPAN set to 0, is the OSNAP menu coming up? If so, please double-check where ^P'Setvar Orthomode 1 '-PAN ^P has been entered in the CUI. Attached is a screenshot of my CUI. If everything is entered correctly and it's still not working, I would again suggest trying some of the Logitech mouse settings in combination with the CUI. 

Thanks 🙂

[Anonymous]

Looks like my problem is deeper than I expected. I don't have button 3 listed. (see attachment) How do I get the listing?

[alanjt_]

If you activate pan, then hold the shift key down, you will still get an orthoganal pan, and 3dorbit will not activate. Now, to combat my accidental shift-down before I activate pan, I just undefine the 3dorbittransparent in my startup file.

eg.

(command "_.undefine" "_.3DORBITTRANSPARENT")

[Anonymous]

That is my current setup but for coworkers dreading the move to 2015 it would remove a speed bump if they could continue using ortho pan the way they are used to. 

[alanjt_]

It's been that way for quite some time. I'm running 2013 currently, and I remember shift+pan activating 3dorbittransparent as far back as 2009.

[christina.davis]

Hi Kyle, 

I can't tell what you have in the cui since the Shift+Click section is not expanded, but you can right-click on Shift+Click and pick New Button. Then drag a command up from the Command list, like Pan. It doesn't matter which one you pick because you will paste in the macro from Paul's post and rename it. 

Thanks 🙂